Any thoughts or experiences with this bull?
http://www.herfnet.com/online/cgi-bin/i ... 2&9=5C5351
Thanks,
Alan
http://www.herfnet.com/online/cgi-bin/i ... 2&9=5C5351
Thanks,
Alan
CPL":1or33954 said:Alan have you seen the older photo of him? The picture that genex just had done looks very impressive, but the other two on the herfnet site are disappointing. His REA and IMF ratios will be interesting to watch, because right now on 21 calves they look great. I don't think I'd use him though.
CPL":1pmvi9r1 said:Alan have you seen the older photo of him? The picture that genex just had done looks very impressive, but the other two on the herfnet site are disappointing. His REA and IMF ratios will be interesting to watch, because right now on 21 calves they look great. I don't think I'd use him though.
What I like about him is a 0.5 BW with a .61 ACC and a 101 YW with a .50 ACC. It's a nice spread between BW and YW.
The other two pics of him was really surprising to me. If He was in my pasture as the weanling (?) his youngest pic, I probably would have cut him and shipped him. the next pic still does not impress me. But I really like how he turned out now.
what is FCR?
Alan":27yuh3tg said:What I like about him is a 0.5 BW with a .61 ACC and a 101 YW with a .50 ACC. It's a nice spread between BW and YW. Like you, I don't know if his REA and IMF (okay marb) will hold up, but at .31 and .27 ACC it shouldn't fall too much, but I like the bulls with great carcuss traits.
Herefords.US":1kadg15t said:Alan":1kadg15t said:What I like about him is a 0.5 BW with a .61 ACC and a 101 YW with a .50 ACC. It's a nice spread between BW and YW. Like you, I don't know if his REA and IMF (okay marb) will hold up, but at .31 and .27 ACC it shouldn't fall too much, but I like the bulls with great carcuss traits.
IMNTBHO, the only EPD that this bull has that you MIGHT be able to hang your hat on is his BW EPD at this point. The accuracy levels of the other EPDs are so low that they are totally unreliable. All of the data collected on his progeny has been from one herd, a very GOOD herd, but only ONE herd. As I said before, I'd wait until some more data comes in, especially from a variety of different herds, before using this bull with any confidence.
George
Your not going to find many bulls with better numbers.
Numbers don't make cattle.
northtexas":fj8t6i5n said:In fact, I'd take his opinion much more seriously than yours. He is a real world rancher earning a living of his cattle. You are a University hand living off tax dollars.
Spartan":zh63cgpm said:Well I am the manager at MSU Beef Barn and I calved out and raised MSU TCF Revolution 4R till we sold him at the NWSS in Denver as a yearling. Norther Rancher you are completely wrong, I look at his mother every day and she produces more milk than 2 normal herefords combined. Her udder is fine I have never had to touch it. His mother is one of the best cows of any breed i have seen. One or our best heifer calves in this years calf crop is a Revoultion out of a two year old. He is going to hold true on his BW for sure. We are using him again this year. He is the only bull in the Hereford Breed that is under a 1 on BW over 100 on YW and above .5 for both IMF and REA. Your not going to find many bulls with better numbers. You talk about the earlier pictures that was taken at Rauschs after he had covered cows from May till August. I am sure if you seen most bulls after covering cows all summer they have on their work cloths. If any of you have any questions about the bull or his progeny i would be happy to answer them. And for those of you like Northern Rancher who like to speak about cattle you dont know anything about, please do your research and get your facts straight before you run other peoples cattle into the ground.
Sincerely
Cody Sankey
How many cows did he breed during that time period
Spartan":2pv1lorl said:Well I am the manager at MSU Beef Barn and I calved out and raised MSU TCF Revolution 4R till we sold him at the NWSS in Denver as a yearling. Norther Rancher you are completely wrong, I look at his mother every day and she produces more milk than 2 normal herefords combined. Her udder is fine I have never had to touch it. His mother is one of the best cows of any breed i have seen. One or our best heifer calves in this years calf crop is a Revoultion out of a two year old. He is going to hold true on his BW for sure. We are using him again this year. He is the only bull in the Hereford Breed that is under a 1 on BW over 100 on YW and above .5 for both IMF and REA. Your not going to find many bulls with better numbers. You talk about the earlier pictures that was taken at Rauschs after he had covered cows from May till August. I am sure if you seen most bulls after covering cows all summer they have on their work cloths. If any of you have any questions about the bull or his progeny i would be happy to answer them. And for those of you like Northern Rancher who like to speak about cattle you dont know anything about, please do your research and get your facts straight before you run other peoples cattle into the ground.
Sincerely
Cody Sankey
she produces more milk than 2 normal herefords combined