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<blockquote data-quote="Anonymous" data-source="post: 5443"><p>Dun</p><p></p><p>Your post is excellent advice. I still prefer my registered black angus. If you can get excellent quality herdfords for 1/2 to 3/4 price of angus I would use them. Just use a good quality angus bull "color dictated by local market or preference".</p><p></p><p>> Unless we want to get into some</p><p>> particular niche market, it is</p><p>> awfully hard to beat the baldy</p><p>> cow, red or black. The key is to</p><p>> start with quality animals. If you</p><p>> start with mediocre cows and use</p><p>> the best bulls you are looking at</p><p>> 3 years before that cows improved</p><p>> calf has a calf of her own. You</p><p>> can start with Angus or Hereford</p><p>> based cows and breed them to the</p><p>> other breed, start with baldies,</p><p>> or sdtart with other breeds and</p><p>> crossbreed them. Good angus or</p><p>> angus based cows are ussually a</p><p>> little higher proced then other</p><p>> breeds. In our area you can buy</p><p>> darn good quality Herefords for</p><p>> from 1/2to 3/4 of what the</p><p>> equivelent angus cow will cost.</p><p>> Once you have the good quailty</p><p>> crossbred british cows you can</p><p>> crossbreed them to one of the</p><p>> larger continental breeds and</p><p>> market the calves. Your cow base</p><p>> will be smaller and more</p><p>> economical to feed, they'll provie</p><p>> quality calves and good maternal</p><p>> traits and abilities. If you have</p><p>> a breed in your area that really</p><p>> gets docked at the salebarn,</p><p>> assuming that is where you'll sell</p><p>> the calves, avoid that breed.</p><p>> Right or wrong, some places really</p><p>> hammer off color cattle, i.e.</p><p>> greys or yellows, spots, etc.</p><p>> Eared calves are docked pretty</p><p>> heavily in some areas. Around here</p><p>> it's Hereford get hit the worst,</p><p>> nest is greys/yellows, then eared</p><p>> or spotted. Having gone through</p><p>> the logical parts, if there is one</p><p>> breed that really spins you up, be</p><p>> it Longhorns, or traditional</p><p>> Simmenthal, hell, dachhound</p><p>> crossed with Holsteins, raise</p><p>> whatever it is. Being aware that</p><p>> you are going to be docked, having</p><p>> something in the pasture that you</p><p>> enjoy is sometimes worth more then</p><p>> the money you won't receive for</p><p>> the calves. We are slipping more</p><p>> an more Polled Hereford blood into</p><p>> our calves, we know they aren't</p><p>> popular, but I really enjoy the</p><p>> visuals of hereford calves. I</p><p>> can't imagine not having some</p><p>> around. That's what works for us,</p><p>> evertone has different goals,</p><p>> likes and dislikes. The botom line</p><p>> is raise what you like, keeping in</p><p>> mind the built in obstacles to</p><p>> making a decent profit.</p><p></p><p>> dun</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Anonymous, post: 5443"] Dun Your post is excellent advice. I still prefer my registered black angus. If you can get excellent quality herdfords for 1/2 to 3/4 price of angus I would use them. Just use a good quality angus bull "color dictated by local market or preference". > Unless we want to get into some > particular niche market, it is > awfully hard to beat the baldy > cow, red or black. The key is to > start with quality animals. If you > start with mediocre cows and use > the best bulls you are looking at > 3 years before that cows improved > calf has a calf of her own. You > can start with Angus or Hereford > based cows and breed them to the > other breed, start with baldies, > or sdtart with other breeds and > crossbreed them. Good angus or > angus based cows are ussually a > little higher proced then other > breeds. In our area you can buy > darn good quality Herefords for > from 1/2to 3/4 of what the > equivelent angus cow will cost. > Once you have the good quailty > crossbred british cows you can > crossbreed them to one of the > larger continental breeds and > market the calves. Your cow base > will be smaller and more > economical to feed, they'll provie > quality calves and good maternal > traits and abilities. If you have > a breed in your area that really > gets docked at the salebarn, > assuming that is where you'll sell > the calves, avoid that breed. > Right or wrong, some places really > hammer off color cattle, i.e. > greys or yellows, spots, etc. > Eared calves are docked pretty > heavily in some areas. Around here > it's Hereford get hit the worst, > nest is greys/yellows, then eared > or spotted. Having gone through > the logical parts, if there is one > breed that really spins you up, be > it Longhorns, or traditional > Simmenthal, hell, dachhound > crossed with Holsteins, raise > whatever it is. Being aware that > you are going to be docked, having > something in the pasture that you > enjoy is sometimes worth more then > the money you won't receive for > the calves. We are slipping more > an more Polled Hereford blood into > our calves, we know they aren't > popular, but I really enjoy the > visuals of hereford calves. I > can't imagine not having some > around. That's what works for us, > evertone has different goals, > likes and dislikes. The botom line > is raise what you like, keeping in > mind the built in obstacles to > making a decent profit. > dun [/QUOTE]
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