I don;t recall off the top of my head, but it seems that CG is very low in something, maybe calcium or phosphorous. . That is about the only thing that causes me any concern with using it as a straight feed.
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Chuckie":2692329v said:Are you still using the open topped water tanks?
You may have to use a lick wheel. I'd still contact the main office. Are they remixing the product before loading you up? The literature that I read states it will separate over time.Chuckie":30n718yq said:Dun, I can't figure out what the difference is between us. The cows have had all the pasture and hay they wanted, loose minerals, and still they take it down so quick. It almost sounds like we are using two different products. Are you still using the open topped water tanks?
Tod Dague":1x09by8a said:You may have to use a lick wheel. I'd still contact the main office. Are they remixing the product before loading you up? The literature that I read states it will separate over time.Chuckie":1x09by8a said:Dun, I can't figure out what the difference is between us. The cows have had all the pasture and hay they wanted, loose minerals, and still they take it down so quick. It almost sounds like we are using two different products. Are you still using the open topped water tanks?
I was thinking that the supplier that Chuckie uses may not remix his and that may be part of the problem with over consumption.dun":3fnt4gho said:Tod Dague":3fnt4gho said:You may have to use a lick wheel. I'd still contact the main office. Are they remixing the product before loading you up? The literature that I read states it will separate over time.Chuckie":3fnt4gho said:Dun, I can't figure out what the difference is between us. The cows have had all the pasture and hay they wanted, loose minerals, and still they take it down so quick. It almost sounds like we are using two different products. Are you still using the open topped water tanks?
From the time we quit feeding it until last week it had gotten a crust on it of thick stuff. I used an old electric trolling motor in the tank and it stirred it up really well. Our supplier agitates it in the tank on the truck and then pumps it out rather tehn using gravity to fill our tank.
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Tod Dague":d5cj2suj said:I was thinking that the supplier that Chuckie uses may not remix his and that may be part of the problem with over consumption.
Price may be down, but here the haul bill is not. Very few are using liquid feed any more, around here. I've got 2 lick tanks.1 large and one medium, that are like brand new, I'm going to sell.flaboy+":147walhl said:Just got my liquid feed yesterday. 33% protien, 5% fat. Price is down from last year. Got 600 gallons. Will have to wait and see how quick it goes. My experience is like big bull says. They lick the wheel, go to water, then go eat hay. Then they start the sequence all over. This goes on all day.
DDG is dried distillers grain. It is a co product of ethanol production. It is usually available from most feed stores that are located close to corn production. The further you are from corn the less likely it will be available. Trucking makes the cost uncompetative with other protein away from the corn belt. It is good stuff maynard.
dcara":p0z50xn9 said:Got to this thread a little late but have some questions I hope ya'll can help me with.
Whats the advantage of the Mix30 if it only has 16% CP compared to 30% in other liquid feeds? Does it just depend on how much CP you think you need to supplement? If so, then how do you calculate how much CP they need. I mean, do you just monitor the cow patty consistency and BCS or do you get a forage analysis and do the nutriant weight calculations (i.e. lbs of feed x %protein etc.). Does a 33% liquid feed make them eat more roughage than a 16% liquid feed?
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DDG is dried distillers grain. It is a co product of ethanol production. It is usually available from most feed stores that are located close to corn production. The further you are from corn the less likely it will be available. Trucking makes the cost uncompetative with other protein away from the corn belt. It is good stuff maynard.
I read an article on byproduct feeds that mentioned the high moisture content in breweries grains which made them uneconomical to truck very far, but it refered to them as "wet" as opposed to "dry" (as in DDG) is this the same thing.
reprint from article on Brewerís Grains
In Alabama, most of the brewerís grains come from two breweries in Georgia. The product is wet with about 20 to 25 percent dry matter. First, it is important to realize that for each 24-ton load of wet brewerís grains purchased, 18 tons of water and 6 tons of feed are on the truck. If the price is
$20 per ton, the price on a dry basis is $80 per ton. The TDN content of wet brewer's grains is 66 to 72 percent, and the crude protein content ranges from 25 to 30 percent.
Shelf life is a general concern when using any wet feed. Wet brewerís grain needs to be stored under anaerobic conditions for best results, although it can be stacked in an open bay if it is to be fed rapidly, especially during the winter months. Free-choice fed 600-pound weaned calves consumed 24 pounds per day (6.2 pounds of dry matter) while grazing bermudagrass pastures and had gains of 1.56 pounds per day for 45 days post-weaning. The bottom line is that its usefulness is limited because of the high water content.
article link
http://www.aces.edu/pubs/docs/A/ANR-1237/