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Milk? where did it go?
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<blockquote data-quote="regolith" data-source="post: 642680" data-attributes="member: 9267"><p>Dun, that sounds to me like it might be Johne's, even if she's not scouring.</p><p>I had one last year that had a full-term calf that looked a month premature, she held on for several months losing condition and still producing milk though not as much as her previous year, finally tested positive for Johne's when she was put up before a vet in the autumn almost emaciated - she'd never been scouring significantly.</p><p>Other pos at that age - arthritis? She might not graze much if she's in pain.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Nesikep - I've seen cows lose their milk soon after calving with Johne's, pneumonia, eczema (photosensitivity), peritonitis, unidentified inflammation (59 last year, had a high temp, vet put her on antibiotics, she came right). Mid-lactation - a heifer last year stopped eating and lost condition and milk very quickly, it turned out she'd cracked a rib and anti-inflammatories took her mind off the pain so she could recover. First thing I'd be asking was whether the cow had cleaned after calving.</p><p>Sometimes they recover milk production, sometimes they don't. One second-calver many years ago we didn't milk for over a week (possibly eczema) because there was nothing to take - but she came back into milk without treatment. With an older cow I'd probably cut my losses on her.</p><p></p><p>Oh - pine needles. Recommended to avoid them, for sure, because of the abortion risk. But I've never heard of them harming cattle that aren't in-calf, and my cows regularly strip the bottom branches of over-hanging trees of all varieties, including pine and macrocarpa (cypress ... - I'd need to look up the botanical name). A couple of years back I got a couple of calves for a good milk cow, trying to take her through the winter for a 2-yr lactation. She died of stomach ulcers in the spring. I was very suspicious of the macrocarpa - high winds had scattered the leaves throughout her pasture - but couldn't find any information to confirm that suspicion, or any suggestion that there was any possible harm apart from abortion.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="regolith, post: 642680, member: 9267"] Dun, that sounds to me like it might be Johne's, even if she's not scouring. I had one last year that had a full-term calf that looked a month premature, she held on for several months losing condition and still producing milk though not as much as her previous year, finally tested positive for Johne's when she was put up before a vet in the autumn almost emaciated - she'd never been scouring significantly. Other pos at that age - arthritis? She might not graze much if she's in pain. Nesikep - I've seen cows lose their milk soon after calving with Johne's, pneumonia, eczema (photosensitivity), peritonitis, unidentified inflammation (59 last year, had a high temp, vet put her on antibiotics, she came right). Mid-lactation - a heifer last year stopped eating and lost condition and milk very quickly, it turned out she'd cracked a rib and anti-inflammatories took her mind off the pain so she could recover. First thing I'd be asking was whether the cow had cleaned after calving. Sometimes they recover milk production, sometimes they don't. One second-calver many years ago we didn't milk for over a week (possibly eczema) because there was nothing to take - but she came back into milk without treatment. With an older cow I'd probably cut my losses on her. Oh - pine needles. Recommended to avoid them, for sure, because of the abortion risk. But I've never heard of them harming cattle that aren't in-calf, and my cows regularly strip the bottom branches of over-hanging trees of all varieties, including pine and macrocarpa (cypress ... - I'd need to look up the botanical name). A couple of years back I got a couple of calves for a good milk cow, trying to take her through the winter for a 2-yr lactation. She died of stomach ulcers in the spring. I was very suspicious of the macrocarpa - high winds had scattered the leaves throughout her pasture - but couldn't find any information to confirm that suspicion, or any suggestion that there was any possible harm apart from abortion. [/QUOTE]
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