greybeard
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Most farmers and ranchers are doing fine..mentally, but some of you, I ain't so sure about.
I've read some really weird stuff posted on CT......
I've read some really weird stuff posted on CT......
pricefarm said:We all have to be crazy to work as hard and put in as many hours as we do for so little in return.
Stocker Steve said:Aaron Absolutely good debt and bad debt - in stable times. Anything happens to upset balance - markets crash said:What are some examples of 100% sure bets ?
Perimeter fences are sure bet in every way. Surface drainage. Fertilizer. Good genetics in the case of cattle. Heated shop, or at least built to spec and serviced so that heat can be used. Those are the ones that come to mind. Sure bet meaning they not only add production value to yourself, but add to the intrinsic value of the property no matter if the next buyer is a cattleman, cropper or recreationalist. The only reason I don't add cross-fencing is because it only adds intrinsic value to someone who will run livestock on it. Croppers rip out cross fences pretty quick.
Oh another one is water. Especially high-producing drilled wells with high-quality water.
Stocker Steve said:Not so cattle orientated here. A third or more of the buyers are recreation orientated. So to add durable property value - - a shop works, windbreaks work, and surface water works.
I think a root issue with farmer mental health is they want to believe that they can keep doing what they always have, and it will be OK, or at least a Federal program will make it OK for a while.
pricefarm said:We all have to be crazy to work as hard and put in as many hours as we do for so little in return.
Drinking on the job again
shaz said:pricefarm said:We all have to be crazy to work as hard and put in as many hours as we do for so little in return.
Yes, we are all crazy but consider the benefits of farming that don't show up on your tax return.
In my case:
1) Heat with wood - saving around $4000 per year.
2) Drinking on the job
3) Hunting lease that covers the property taxes 2 times over
4) Great fishing - I just don't have time to fish though
5) 500lbs of organic beef in my freezer that I have 1.50/lb and no taxes paid. At least a $2500 benefit there.
6) Land that appreciates at 5% per year. (This is the tax assessor value increase, not my wishful thinking)
7) Exercise I wouldn't get otherwise.
Drinking on the job again :drink:
8) I'll probably get to log the place at some point. Value? Who knows?
Not all that bad when you consider the intangibles.
Like a cattleman here said when he was getting out of the bidness,,the only thing dumber than a cow is the feller raising em..and having more cows then the other guy only means your twice as stupid :cowboy:pricefarm said:We all have to be crazy to work as hard and put in as many hours as we do for so little in return.
greybeard said:Chinchillas and Emu are the way out and the ag wave of the future.....
ALACOWMAN said:Like a cattleman here said when he was getting out of the bidness,,the only thing dumber than a cow is the feller raising em..and having more cows then the other guy only means your twice as stupid :cowboy:pricefarm said:We all have to be crazy to work as hard and put in as many hours as we do for so little in return.