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Man Shoots, Kills Suspected Robber (Updated)
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<blockquote data-quote="HOSS" data-source="post: 615000" data-attributes="member: 1863"><p>I don't know... offer him a cookie if he quit hitting that nice lady over the head with a beer bottle? Maybe a pillow fight instead? </p><p></p><p>I still don't know what to think of the general populice carrying handguns around, but he saved that lady's life and that's something she'll never forget. </p><p></p><p>Now watch this robber's family sue the guy for the shooting.</p></blockquote><p></p><p>Lammie, to ease your concerns about the general populace carrying concealed weapons I can tell you this. Every state that has enacted a non high restrictive concealed carry law has seen a marked decrease in violent crime and robberies. I know Florida used to be the carjacking capital of the world until they allowed CCW permits and the incidences of carjackings dropped like a rock after a few carjackers got dropped like a rock. Then the carjackers turned toward carjacking cars with out of state license plates. This activity went down too after the reciprocal laws were passed to allow other states residents to carry concealed weapons in Florida.</p><p></p><p>Here in Tennessee crime dropped dramatically when concealed weapons permits were allowed. Tennessee has over 250,000 permit holders and permits have been available since 1994. To my knowledge in 15 years of concealed carry permits by a quarter million residents not one murder has been committed by a legit permit holder. There is not a city anywhere of 250k people that has 0 murders in 15 years. This goes to show that permitted citizens carrying guns is much safer than no citizens carrying guns.</p><p></p><p>I saw a stat here in TN where you are more likely to be murdered by a police officer who is commiting a crime (we had a couple of police officers kill other people in love triangles and dirty cop drug deals) than you would be a concealed carry permit holder. Most people when asked say that they feel safe with police officers carrying guns around them but not the general populace. Statistics do not show this to be the real case however. I feel safe with police carrying guns as well as the general populace. As a former LEO I also felt safe with the general population bearing arms (concealed or otherwise) when I was on duty.</p><p></p><p>So Lammie if trouble ever befalls upon you, and I hope it never does, I hope that you are carrying a gun or someone around you is. If your state offers a CCW permit class go ahead and take it, get your permit. You don't have to carry but I think that if you ever feel the need having that option is a good thing.</p><p> :cboy:</p><p>[/QUOTE]</p>
[QUOTE="HOSS, post: 615000, member: 1863"] I don't know... offer him a cookie if he quit hitting that nice lady over the head with a beer bottle? Maybe a pillow fight instead? I still don't know what to think of the general populice carrying handguns around, but he saved that lady's life and that's something she'll never forget. Now watch this robber's family sue the guy for the shooting.[/quote] Lammie, to ease your concerns about the general populace carrying concealed weapons I can tell you this. Every state that has enacted a non high restrictive concealed carry law has seen a marked decrease in violent crime and robberies. I know Florida used to be the carjacking capital of the world until they allowed CCW permits and the incidences of carjackings dropped like a rock after a few carjackers got dropped like a rock. Then the carjackers turned toward carjacking cars with out of state license plates. This activity went down too after the reciprocal laws were passed to allow other states residents to carry concealed weapons in Florida. Here in Tennessee crime dropped dramatically when concealed weapons permits were allowed. Tennessee has over 250,000 permit holders and permits have been available since 1994. To my knowledge in 15 years of concealed carry permits by a quarter million residents not one murder has been committed by a legit permit holder. There is not a city anywhere of 250k people that has 0 murders in 15 years. This goes to show that permitted citizens carrying guns is much safer than no citizens carrying guns. I saw a stat here in TN where you are more likely to be murdered by a police officer who is commiting a crime (we had a couple of police officers kill other people in love triangles and dirty cop drug deals) than you would be a concealed carry permit holder. Most people when asked say that they feel safe with police officers carrying guns around them but not the general populace. Statistics do not show this to be the real case however. I feel safe with police carrying guns as well as the general populace. As a former LEO I also felt safe with the general population bearing arms (concealed or otherwise) when I was on duty. So Lammie if trouble ever befalls upon you, and I hope it never does, I hope that you are carrying a gun or someone around you is. If your state offers a CCW permit class go ahead and take it, get your permit. You don't have to carry but I think that if you ever feel the need having that option is a good thing. :cboy: [/QUOTE]
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