Low Hanging Weight?

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I just called to get the hanging weight on a Charolais heifer I brought to the processor yesterday. I weighed my truck and trailer before and after dropping her off and she weighed 1190lbs. They said the hanging weight was 570 lbs. That seems very low. Anyone have an opinion? I was expecting at least 70% hanging and about 50% packaged overall. I have never had one hang out this low, not even the Jersey cross I brought in last time. Any experiences appreciated before I have words with these guys.
 
Did they exclude any optional organs?
 
Not sure how much stock I'd put in the weight you derived from weighing truck and trailer. Did you weigh your vehicle on a certified scale? Was your heifer off feed and water for over 12 hours? Does the processor not give you a live weight?
 
I just called to get the hanging weight on a Charolais heifer I weighed my truck and trailer before and after dropping her off and she weighed 1190lbs. They said the hanging weight was 570 lbs. Anyone have an opinion? Any experiences appreciated before I have words with these guys.
The butchers that I use all charge processing by hanging weight pounds, so the heavier it weighs the more they get paid, so no reason for them to weigh it light.
570 lbs hanging is either correct or a very good processing deal.

Seems the live weight is about 200 lbs heavy.
Were you in the truck or out of the truck both times when the weight was stamped?

p.s.
gut fill will effect live weights by about 3-4%
 
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Not sure how much stock I'd put in the weight you derived from weighing truck and trailer. Did you weigh your vehicle on a certified scale? Was your heifer off feed and water for over 12 hours? Does the processor not give you a live weight?
I weighed my rig at the local feed store. It's what they sell by. Heifer had feed and water. No, the processor doesn't have a live weight scale, that's why I do my own live weight.
 
The butchers that I use all charge processing by hanging weight pounds, so the heavier it weighs the more they get paid, so no reason for them to weigh it light.
570 lbs hanging is either correct or a very good processing deal.

Seems the live weight is about 200 lbs heavy.
Were you in the truck or out of the truck both times when the weight was stamped?

p.s.
gut fill will effect live weights by about 3-4%
Yes, they charge by hanging weight($0.99/lb) so I understand the lack of motivation. I was just shocked that hanging weight was less than 50% of live weight. This heifer wasn't exactly young. I bought her and her mom back in December 2020 so I would guess she was about 18 months old. BTW I stand in the scale house and watch the guy running the scale. I'm not sure whether to be offended or not by that part of your question-lol.
 
60% probably more like it.
Yes, you are probably right. Like I told Son of Butch, I was just shocked at less than 50%. It's just much lower than my previous experiences. Attached is an article from Penn State. Table 1 shows averages for different types of beef at different live weights. Mine was even lower than the lowest expected from poorly muscled or overly fat or for dairy breeds at the same live weight.

Understanding Beef Carcass Yields and Losses During Processing


Understanding the factors involved in estimating the amount of beef derived from the live animal will assist cattle producers who directly market their beef.
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Understanding Beef Carcass Yields and Losses During Processing

Having a beef animal custom butchered for personal home consumption has been a long-standing, common practice for beef producers in the United States. These producers are now marketing their animals directly to consumers for "freezer beef". Consumers are purchasing quarters, halves and even whole beef animals for their in-home use in response to the "local" and "slow" food movements. The organization Buy Fresh Buy Local in Pennsylvania is just one of the many groups across the United States helping to educate consumers on locations where they can support agriculture by purchasing and enjoying locally grown commodities.
In most cases of purchases for freezer beef, there is still a middleman, so-to- speak, that is necessary to consult with. Most cattle producers are not harvesting beef animals on-farm and still must utilize small, local meat processors to assist in the marketing of their commodity. Producers must have a good working relationship and open communication with their local butchers to ensure that their product is being handled in a manner that will assist them in producing repeat sales. Offering consumers certain cuts of beef for example, that the meat processor is not willing or able to provide to the consumer could be quite problematic for gaining repeat customers. Properly communicate your needs as a producer and the desires of your consumers to the meat processor. The latter task is probably one the hardest issues related to direct marketing of beef cattle. Knowing what cutting services and packaging options, if any, the local butcher provides is an important start to assisting the consumer in understanding what products they may want from the animal they are purchasing. No consumer likes surprise fees tacked on to an ever increasing bill for food commodities. Be sure to communicate current fees up-front with both the meat processor and the purchaser of the beef animal.
Regardless of the numerous reasons for the success of this niche beef market, some consumers are still confused by the amount and type of beef products they receive when purchasing directly marketed cattle. The Wendy's catchphrase "Where's the Beef?" from the mid 1980's may come to mind for some consumers when receiving their recent purchase of freezer beef. In a lot of cases, novice purchasers of freezer beef may simply not be aware of why they may only have 500lbs of meat or less when they paid for an animal of over 1100lbs. Still, more experienced customers may feel they have not received the entire product that they purchased when the amount of product received varies from purchase-to-purchase. A logical scenario could be the following: Last year, a family received close to 500lbs of beef from a local beef producer. This year, after much consultation with the meat processor requesting certain 'new' boneless beef cuts that the customer learned of, the same family received only 350lbs of beef from a similar sized animal as last year. Both of these types of consumers, the novice and repeat customer, can be assisted greatly by understanding the variation in amounts of beef certain animal types produce, and by knowing the differences in the amount of beef gained or lost by processing procedures (bone-in versus boneless) alone.
As a general rule, most cattle will have an average dressing percentage of 63 percent. This means that a beef animal weighing 1,000lbs will result in a carcass that weighs only 630lbs after slaughter. Although the average dressing percent for beef is 63 percent, several factors may affect the carcass weight. Table 1 below shows the variation in carcass weight alone by the specific factors that affect dressing percentage. Nonetheless, this is the beginning point in which the consumer will see weight lost and variation in weights of directly purchased beef animals.
Table 1. Factors affecting dressing percent and the expected carcass weights
Live weight
(pounds)
Average Carcass
Weight
(pounds)
Heifer
(immature
female)
Carcasses
Pounds
Dairy Breeds
(56-60% or worse)
(pounds)
Excessively fat / poorly muscled
(pounds)
1200756732696660
1100693671638605
1000630610580550
900567549522495
 
I just called to get the hanging weight on a Charolais heifer I brought to the processor yesterday. I weighed my truck and trailer before and after dropping her off and she weighed 1190lbs. They said the hanging weight was 570 lbs. That seems very low. Anyone have an opinion? I was expecting at least 70% hanging and about 50% packaged overall. I have never had one hang out this low, not even the Jersey cross I brought in last time. Any experiences appreciated before I have words with these guys.
70% on a 1190# Charlois heifer? There is still much to learn Grasshopper........
 
Was the scale large enough to get ALL of the axles on it? A lot of them are too short for a truck and trailer and the front truck axles are left off. And with something in the trailer you get more load on the rear axle than the front, vs when the truck/trailer is weighed empty. This gives you a weight higher than actual.
 
No bulls on the place. No neighbors with bulls. I sure didn't do AI. Maybe Immaculate?
Did you buy her as a feeder? If so, what weight? If she's home raised, didn't she have male siblings? When did they get castrated?

Another thought is that truck scales usually break in 20lb increments. One animal by its self can get the scale jumping pretty good if they are moving a lot on the trailer.
 
Did you ask the processor if he had an explanation for the low weight? They should know if she was pregnant, and that would explain the weight left on the floor. I would think the processor should have some ideas.

I just took a Wagyu/Angus heifer yesterday that I weighed on my scales (not certified) last Saturday as 1210 lb. I called today and hanging weight was 774, a little bit more than I was expecting but certainly within limits.
 

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