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manitobaranch

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I am looking to buy a tractor and I would like some input on what i should go with?
I want to stay with the big brands, John Deere, Case or NH simply for resale value.
I dont think i can afford new.
It needs to be able to pull my Highline Bale Pro, 16' haybine, do loader work(loading manure, dirt, feeding), and be able to haul a fairly big load of bales.
What do you think i will need for HP to do these things fairly easily?Will a John Deere 6400 or 6410 cut it?
 

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Looks like you will need arond 85HP to pull the Highline. I would look around to see what you can find in that range. All the tractors you mentioned should serve you well. I would also look at the Masseys. They are very reliable and reasonably priced.
 

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flaboy+":2qj883eb said:
I would also look at the Masseys. They are very reliable and reasonably priced.


Not a lot of Massey dealers in Manitoba...some down around Winnipeg.
 

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frenchie":17mwj6rt said:
flaboy+":17mwj6rt said:
I would also look at the Masseys. They are very reliable and reasonably priced.


Not a lot of Massey dealers in Manitoba...some down around Winnipeg.

Yeah, I wasn't sure what was around his area. I have a Massey made in Canada. I figured with all the ties to Canada there would be many dealers. Here's a little history for those who don't know.

Massey Ferguson Limited was an historically important Canadian agricultural equipment manufacturer.

The firm was founded in 1847 in Newcastle, Ontario by Daniel Massey as the Newcastle Foundry and Machine Manufactory. The company began making some of the world's first mechanical threshers, first by assembling parts from the (North American republic containing 50 states - 48 conterminous states in North America plus Alaska in northwest North America and the Hawaiian Islands in the Pacific Ocean; achieved independence in 1776) United States and eventually designing and building their own equipment. The firm was taken over and expanded by his son Hart Massey who renamed it the Massey Manufacturing Co. and in 1879 moved the company to (The provincial capital and largest city in Ontario (and the largest city in Canada)) Toronto where it soon became one of the cities leading employers. The massive collections of factories on King St. W. became one of the best known features of the city. Massey expanded the company and began to sell its products internationally. Through extensive advertising campaigns he made it one of the most well known brands in Canada. The firm owed much of its success to Canadian (A government tax on imports or exports) tariffs that prevented the larger American firms from competing in Canada. A labour shortage throughout the country also made the firms mechanized equipment very attractive.

In 1891 it merged with the A. Harris, Son & Co. Ltd. to become Massey-Harris Co. and became the largest agricultural equipment maker in the (Formerly the United Kingdom and all the territories under its control; reached its greatest extent at the end of World War I) British Empire. In 1910 the company opened a factory in the United States, making it one of Canada's first multinational firms. In the 1930s it introduced the first self propelled combine harvester. Hart Massey's sons Charles, Chester, Walter, and Fred became closely involved in the business and eventually took over its operations. They were the last generation of Massey's to run the company however. Other members of the family went on to do other things Vincent Massey became Governor General and Raymond Massey became a noted actor. The Massey family used their fortune to improve the city of Toronto and many institutions such as the University of Toronto, Upper Canada College and Massey Hall were financed partially with Massey-Ferguson money.

In 1953 it merged with the Ferguson Company to become, Massey-Harris-Fergusson, before finally taking on its current name in 1958. The company began to decline, however. Facing increasing international competition and an agricultural sector diminishing in importance the firm began to struggle. In the (The decade from 1970 to 1979) 1970s it came under the control of Conrad Black who gutted the company and its once vast complex in Toronto was demolished. In 1981 Black arranged a government bail-out for the collapsing company and sold it to a group of investors who reorganized it as Varity Corporation. In 1994 the farm equipment divisions of Varity were sold to the American AGCO Corporation who continue to use Massey-Ferguson as a product line. In August 1996, Varity merged with Lucas Automotive to become LucasVarity. After a series of mergers and take-overs, the remains of LucasVarity were taken over by the US company TRW.
 

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Wilson_Cattle_Company":358evvah said:
JOHN DEERE!!!! :D

Avery, not all of us can afford that green paint with the hidden gold in it. ;-)
 

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flaboy+":stuqivdw said:
frenchie":stuqivdw said:
flaboy+":stuqivdw said:
I would also look at the Masseys. They are very reliable and reasonably priced.


Not a lot of Massey dealers in Manitoba...some down around Winnipeg.

Yeah, I wasn't sure what was around his area. I have a Massey made in Canada. I figured with all the ties to Canada there would be many dealers.
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`Used to be....Just the way the cookie crumbled . We used to have 9 different farm equipment dealers in our town.Now we have 2.Pretty sad

The only oufit making tractors in Canada yet, I believe is Buhler Versatile
 

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frenchie":1ycqs07j said:
flaboy+":1ycqs07j said:
frenchie":1ycqs07j said:
flaboy+":1ycqs07j said:
I would also look at the Masseys. They are very reliable and reasonably priced.


Not a lot of Massey dealers in Manitoba...some down around Winnipeg.

Yeah, I wasn't sure what was around his area. I have a Massey made in Canada. I figured with all the ties to Canada there would be many dealers.
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`Used to be....Just the way the cookie crumbled . We used to have 9 different farm equipment dealers in our town.Now we have 2.Pretty sad

The only oufit making tractors in Canada yet, I believe is Buhler Versatile

Yeah, even down here I have to go west 60 miles or south 60 miles to the MF dealer but at least they are abundant.
 

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I have a 2005 model New Holland TL100A that has 400 hours and the problems you would expect to see out of a tractor with 3000+ hours. I had a 1999 model New Holland TS100 that the only problem I had was the weight of the loader and bucket caused me to break front hubs and spindles. I'm going to get rid of my new tractor and unless my New Holland dealer will give me an impresive deal on a Trade-in, I'll be going with a Deere. I'd rather pay more up front than to be broke down every other week.
 

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I have been hearing the same thing from the NH's lately. I don't have any experience with the new ones. I have had several Fords over the years and it seems once Ford sold to NH things went down hill fast. My neighbor has a T something 100 and all I ever do is see him working on it. I'm not sure I have ever seen him use it. Maybe he does when I am asleep.
 

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flaboy+":2fkb3yc3 said:
I have been hearing the same thing from the NH's lately. I don't have any experience with the new ones. I have had several Fords over the years and it seems once Ford sold to NH things went down hill fast. My neighbor has a T something 100 and all I ever do is see him working on it. I'm not sure I have ever seen him use it. Maybe he does when I am asleep.
A dealer I know in the Birmingham area was a Ford dealer and continued with NH after the changeover. He's now selling Kubota tractors because he said the same thing, Flaboy...that once Ford left the industry that the NH's were a very inferior product. He said he had so many buyers bringing in new NH's for repairs that he just couldn't back their products anymore.
 

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I have a 65 hp Massey-Ferguson 271X made in Brazil. Cheap; but rugged and pretty trouble free.
 

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nothing runs like a deere, you are buying a premium piece of equipment with parts available almost anywhere, international a close second. 4020 sounds like the rig for you although they sell for more now than when they were new, but worth it.
 
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