Longhorn bull to Hereford cows

[4hfarms]

Our original purchases were 3 bred LH cross years ago. One was LH/Hereford
One was LH/limo and one was LH with some Holstein in there somewhere. Yes, somone else's failed experiments. We just got them to mow grass. Worked well so a friend let us use his LH bull the following years and "bam" a few years 20 cows later.... here we are.

I have put a few LH in the freezer and sold a few as lean forage finished. Have had ground a 4yo bull and a 17mo bull. Both were great ground. Had filets from both we thought were good, great when wrapped in bacon. Ribeye was pretty lean and best cubed and used in goulash and chowder etc. We are big soup/chowder and ground beef eaters. We eat more burgers than most people but haven't been to a fast food place in 10+/-years.

We like to sell LH at about 18- 24mo for freezer beef. Had great results so far because we advertise them as 95% or more lean beef. They seem to be young enough to be tender and old enough to put on a few pounds at about age. We love the flavor of our home grown food better than most anywhere else we eat. Hard to justify the price of going out if you can make better at home.

 

[sgreear]

Our original purchases were 3 bred LH cross years ago. One was LH/Hereford
One was LH/limo and one was LH with some Holstein in there somewhere. Yes, somone else's failed experiments. We just got them to mow grass. Worked well so a friend let us use his LH bull the following years and "bam" a few years 20 cows later.... here we are.

I have put a few LH in the freezer and sold a few as lean forage finished. Have had ground a 4yo bull and a 17mo bull. Both were great ground. Had filets from both we thought were good, great when wrapped in bacon. Ribeye was pretty lean and best cubed and used in goulash and chowder etc. We are big soup/chowder and ground beef eaters. We eat more burgers than most people but haven't been to a fast food place in 10+/-years.

We like to sell LH at about 18- 24mo for freezer beef. Had great results so far because we advertise them as 95% or more lean beef. They seem to be young enough to be tender and old enough to put on a few pounds at about age. We love the flavor of our home grown food better than most anywhere else we eat. Hard to justify the price of going out if you can make better at home.

Agreed!

 

[crossbreed]

My 2 cents from our experience. Started with 9 purebred lh and put a brangus on them. Decent growth and loved the meat when ground. Problem was color, horns and that very distinctive head shape when going to sale barn. 50 cents lb difference minimum. Kept some heifers and crossed with char. Seemed to knock all horns off but still some colored showing up. Here was the biggest problem and was nearly 100%. Longhorns were docile, easily to work and never an issue. Every cross though was hell to work in the pens and fence jumping, climbing, pushing idiots. No idea why but it was literally every one. Every cross got wheels and we moved to brangus/char cross till this year. We had every neighbor on speed dial for cattle on the road

 

[Nesikep]

I love longhorn cattle, and would have one as a yard ornament, but that's it.. Unless you have scrub where a growthier breed will die of starvation, you can't make money with them. If you have 10,000 acres of land and longhorns can live there with no inputs, well, that's the place they belong.

 

[sgreear]

Our original purchases were 3 bred LH cross years ago. One was LH/Hereford
One was LH/limo and one was LH with some Holstein in there somewhere. Yes, somone else's failed experiments. We just got them to mow grass. Worked well so a friend let us use his LH bull the following years and "bam" a few years 20 cows later.... here we are.

I have put a few LH in the freezer and sold a few as lean forage finished. Have had ground a 4yo bull and a 17mo bull. Both were great ground. Had filets from both we thought were good, great when wrapped in bacon. Ribeye was pretty lean and best cubed and used in goulash and chowder etc. We are big soup/chowder and ground beef eaters. We eat more burgers than most people but haven't been to a fast food place in 10+/-years.

We like to sell LH at about 18- 24mo for freezer beef. Had great results so far because we advertise them as 95% or more lean beef. They seem to be young enough to be tender and old enough to put on a few pounds at about age. We love the flavor of our home grown food better than most anywhere else we eat. Hard to justify the price of going out if you can make better at home.

Off the farm (parents/father-in-law) I have eaten grain fed Holstein Andy's black white face and grass fed angus and grass fed Holstein. Yes I'm after an experiment. Did one of your failed cross purchases preform better than the other? From the beef burger is my last choice. Yes I like it but I love steak and roast and prime rib and brisket. When I cook brisket or other meat I prefer choice over prime. I don't like horns because of accidental herd damage and head chutes and if butchered no lot wants them on their lot so it's a field kill and feeding in a trough or hay ring. Cattle are not used ornaments IMHO. Sorry long horn lovers. I do like LH calving ease, self sufficient , goat like eating, longevity, and ability to spit lots of calves out. I also like the fact that they are colesterol gray and heart healthy and 2nd most healthy beef to eat again IMHO. Remember I a the FNG.

 

[sgreear]

I love longhorn cattle, and would have one as a yard ornament, but that's it.. Unless you have scrub where a growthier breed will die of starvation, you can't make money with them. If you have 10,000 acres of land and longhorns can live there with no inputs, well, that's the place they belong.

I don't have 10k acres and if my experiments fail me they will b sale cattle or freezer beef. My dairy farmer dad felt same way except he don't need no damn lawn primates. He will roll over in his grave when word gets to him.

 

[Texas Ranch Hand]

My 2 cents from our experience. Started with 9 purebred lh and put a brangus on them. Decent growth and loved the meat when ground. Problem was color, horns and that very distinctive head shape when going to sale barn. 50 cents lb difference minimum. Kept some heifers and crossed with char. Seemed to knock all horns off but still some colored showing up. Here was the biggest problem and was nearly 100%. Longhorns were docile, easily to work and never an issue. Every cross though was hell to work in the pens and fence jumping, climbing, pushing idiots. No idea why but it was literally every one. Every cross got wheels and we moved to brangus/char cross till this year. We had every neighbor on speed dial for cattle on the road

Good to know and point taken. Thank you

 

[Travlr]

Off the farm (parents/father-in-law) I have eaten grain fed Holstein Andy's black white face and grass fed angus and grass fed Holstein. Yes I'm after an experiment. Did one of your failed cross purchases preform better than the other? From the beef burger is my last choice. Yes I like it but I love steak and roast and prime rib and brisket. When I cook brisket or other meat I prefer choice over prime. I don't like horns because of accidental herd damage and head chutes and if butchered no lot wants them on their lot so it's a field kill and feeding in a trough or hay ring. Cattle are not used ornaments IMHO. Sorry long horn lovers. I do like LH calving ease, self sufficient , goat like eating, longevity, and ability to spit lots of calves out. I also like the fact that they are colesterol gray and heart healthy and 2nd most healthy beef to eat again IMHO. Remember I a the FNG.

Makes me wonder if anyone has ever tried to develop a polled, solid color longhorn? The cows make great mothers for all kinds of reasons but the horns and the hides are definitely a problem.

 

[gcreekrch]

Makes me wonder if anyone has ever tried to develop a polled, solid color longhorn? The cows make great mothers for all kinds of reasons but the horns and the hides are definitely a problem.

They are called Angus…..

 

[Travlr]

They are called Angus…..

Made me laugh...

I only wish Angus had the fertility, calving ease, and longevity of longhorns.

 

[gcreekrch]

Made me laugh...

I only wish Angus had the fertility, calving ease, and longevity of longhorns.

I think they were better until breeders started tightening the gene pool. Environment and management has a lot to do with fertility and I would guess the backyard longhorns that are bred only for horn growth will or do have fertility issues also.

 

[Nesikep]

I think they were better until breeders started tightening the gene pool. Environment and management has a lot to do with fertility and I would guess the backyard longhorns that are bred only for horn growth will or do have fertility issues also.

I don't know, but longhorns aren't bred for high milk, and that is usually antagonistic to fertility, especially if they're on slim feed.

 

[Brute 23]

The best animals are always crossed. It's the only way to get a truly all around animal. That's not just with cattle.

 

[Warren Allison]

I also like the fact that they are colesterol gray and heart healthy and 2nd most healthy beef to eat again IMHO. Remember I a the FNG.

What is the 1st most healthiest to eat?

 

[sgreear]

What is the 1st most healthiest to eat?

Wagu imho.

 

[Travlr]

Wagu imho.

Oh... I doubt that.

 

[sgreear]

I'm not an expert for sure.

Wagyu and Hanwoo beef have higher proportions of monounsaturated fatty acid (MUFA) due to higher concentrations of oleic acid. MUFAs have little effect on total cholesterol. They are heart-healthy dietary fat because they can lower low-density lipoprotein (LDL)-cholesterol while increasing high-density lipoprotein (HDL)-cholesterol. Clinical trials have indicated that highly marbled beef does not increase LDL-cholesterol. This review also emphasizes that high oleic acid beef such as Wagyu beef might be able to reduce risk factors for cardiovascular disease.

For me I have an abundance of LDl and a lack of HDL which makes me more susceptible to heart disease. If I can change beef whether it be LH or Wagu or a cross and help me or not hurt me then it's a win for me. My triglycerides are also high. Both of these animals Again in my honest opinion won't make it go up conspired to commercial type beef. If I'm wrong I'd love for you to tell me or show me

 

[Travlr]

I'm not an expert for sure.

Wagyu and Hanwoo beef have higher proportions of monounsaturated fatty acid (MUFA) due to higher concentrations of oleic acid. MUFAs have little effect on total cholesterol. They are heart-healthy dietary fat because they can lower low-density lipoprotein (LDL)-cholesterol while increasing high-density lipoprotein (HDL)-cholesterol. Clinical trials have indicated that highly marbled beef does not increase LDL-cholesterol. This review also emphasizes that high oleic acid beef such as Wagyu beef might be able to reduce risk factors for cardiovascular disease.

For me I have an abundance of LDl and a lack of HDL which makes me more susceptible to heart disease. If I can change beef whether it be LH or Wagu or a cross and help me or not hurt me then it's a win for me. My triglycerides are also high. Both of these animals Again in my honest opinion won't make it go up conspired to commercial type beef. If I'm wrong I'd love for you to tell me or show me

I can't prove **it because I'm no expert either. And the juice isn't worth the squeeze.

But anything with the amount of fat in it that I see in the advertised wagyu would make me doubt it's the "healthiest" beef.

 

[sgreear]

I don't know, but longhorns aren't bred for high milk, and that is usually antagonistic to fertility, especially if they're on slim feed.

I def understand why u say that. I can't imagine anyone lying to sell a product (lol). Have u ever made tallow with beef fat? I have. No, I never have with wagu fat either. From what I understand it liquodifus at 75 degrees which means hold it in your hand and it will be liquid. Placque in your arteries is what and is caused by what and why is it turning to plaque. If what I'm saying why don't the govt push it? They don't care our govt is run by big pharma and crooks. A steak or roast that is 50% fat isn't appealing at all to me. I wouldn't eat that. That isn't what I am after. I know the wheel is round and I can't change that or reinvent a better one. I am at best looking for the best rolling wheel that will fit my wallet. My vet pretty much told me do don't want to AI my longhorns so I can either find another vet or eat them or buy a bull and tip my LH or sell them

 

[sgreear]

cooke

I am about two years into messing with cows. I have about 30 Hereford on a Hereford bull. My wife bought me a six month old longhorn bull last Christmas. Our old reliable Hereford bull has been on these cows for nearing five years and it's time for him to go. Since the cows are just about all bred and a year from now the longhorn should be ready to start his full time job I was planning on using him.

Question is this, as I try to get smart on longhorn hybrids I find tons of articles on Hereford bulls on LH cows, but nothing on LH bulls on Hereford cows. Does anyone have any experience in this? Looking for why it seems to be a nonexistent issue.

Cooke, so sorry I think I hijacked your thread. I have Long horn heifers and trying to upgrade their genes to a Hereford or Angus or Wagu. I 100% will do Wagu down the road but is looks like I need to cross breed with something else first. There are no Wagu around my parts so that leave AI for me after I have 3-6 cross bred calves. I would get the taxidermist to make your wife a LH scrotum purse and not tell her what it is and bred up not down. Good luck on your plans.