GoWyo
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Was asking about your Angus bull - or maybe you were answering the question, but I am a little confused.
Long horn butchering.
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blackladies
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I think people are just trying to get the full picture. Without physically being there it's hard to give good advice or pass judgement. We have no idea what your operation is like and how much experience you have with cattle. It seems like someone may have taken advantage of you on the angus bull but we can't know without the full picture. Maybe you got it super cheap. Even a bull calf out of a $100k sire needs to be steered sometimes genetics are weird. Just because it was AI doesn't mean it's worthy of passing on its genes itself. @Travlr made some really good points as well as others. Like he he said if your goal is to just get a calf on the ground and that bull has a good sperm count he will get you a live calf. It may not bring very good money if you go to the sale barn or might be lower quality to butcher if your direct selling the meat.
GoWyo
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The bull looks like he should be less than a yearling and definitely not fed for development at all. However, his tail switch length seems to say he is well over a year old. He is not showing any masculinity and even a skinny late blooming yearling Angus bull should show some masculinity, like the beginning of a neck crest.
just my opinion. 1 butcher the calf but don't sell to anyone you know. Eat it yourself. Then you'll know why we feed corn to younger animals. That bulp,haul to the sale barn before he breeds anything
sgreear
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I paid $2000 for the bull. He was an ET bull and I got him from a vet that specializes in reproductive things. Gar Profet son and forever lady donor. Thet really don't make a lot of diff because I didn't register him. My goal was to use the female for receip cows down the road. Other vet told mo no et entail had mothered 2 cows very well no issues. Experience I have not much. Raise 1st 20 yrs on farm. I have been off farm for 40 yrs Holstein and angus or angus Holstein cross is what we had
sgreear
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Sorry he angus embryo transplant first lady angus donor with a gar profit sire.
sgreear
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If I have bulls that is my plans
Ky hills
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The details are a bit confusing to me, but from what I can piece together that bull is supposed to be an ET bull that was purchased for $2000 in 2024.
The owner apparently, didn't get registration papers along with the bull.
No offense meant at all, just having a hard time imagining someone raising ET animals and selling them in that condition , and for that price. Generally speaking those kinds of cattle are maintained in real good condition and asking price is considerably more.
Most yearling Angus bulls around here even just natural service sired are going for at least $4000.
Back to the registration papers, most breeders will transfer them to the new owner free of charge as it doesn't cost much to do so.
The owner apparently, didn't get registration papers along with the bull.
No offense meant at all, just having a hard time imagining someone raising ET animals and selling them in that condition , and for that price. Generally speaking those kinds of cattle are maintained in real good condition and asking price is considerably more.
Most yearling Angus bulls around here even just natural service sired are going for at least $4000.
Back to the registration papers, most breeders will transfer them to the new owner free of charge as it doesn't cost much to do so.
blackladies
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Maybe the sire? To me something doesn't seem right though. Just the way the bull is developing. Maybe he doesn't have enough groceries or hasn't had before he was bought. It would be a good price if he was backgrounded correctly, but he doesn't look like a bull should look. Agree with the papers deal. If they are bothering with embryo transfers they will be providing papers. Any registered stock I've bought the papers came in the mail a month or two later didn't even have to ask for them. Growing up on a dairy you probably know how important genetics are and what they are passing to their offspring.
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Ky hills
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That's what I'm saying, I've seen other bulls by both Prophet and his sire Bextor.
Both have often been some of the standouts in their groups, back when both were popular respectively.
I just can't imagine a program doing ET work and then not conditioning their bulls to get a better price for them.
I have seen programs try to sell cheaper end bulls, that don't perform like the rest, instead of marketing them as steers.
Maybe that's what went on in this scenario.
greybeard
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Sometimes a runt just happens but it shows pretty quick and I can't figure a good breeder not castrating.
sgreear
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It butchered from the pole 63%. The only thing that was weird is the chuck was very dark. The briskets were very small. 284 lb pole weight was 449 I was suprised at what marbeling it had. I had some marbeling in Sirloin and pretty good on ribeye. The filet was teny tiny.
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sgreear
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I have. It tasted it but $80 looks a bit short
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tex452
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The last two I butchered were longhorn red angus cross, the meat is good, I really like the HB.
sgreear
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How did it work for you? Pics?
sgreear
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How did it work for you? Pics
sgreear
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He does seem light for his age. I didn't figure papers were worth much in what I was putting him with. I did ask about papers. I'm pretty sure I can still get them but I'm not sure when I get rid of him if he hasn't matured more it might be a waste of money. I thought about getting a few calves from him and cutting him or send him to market. I don't think I will loose to much money.
