LImo x Angus
- Thread starter Jason W
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What colour are the Angus?
What colour are the Limo?
Tell me about the genetics of each cow and the bull - epds? Call someone who knows / cares - certainly not me. Try ollie!
Then we can talk size, meat and milk.
Polled is dominant. No horns. Any horns in his background? Then maybe horned. So - maybe.
Not enough info my friend - you are new to the game - provide the info someone will help you out.
Bez
What colour are the Limo?
Tell me about the genetics of each cow and the bull - epds? Call someone who knows / cares - certainly not me. Try ollie!
Then we can talk size, meat and milk.
Polled is dominant. No horns. Any horns in his background? Then maybe horned. So - maybe.
Not enough info my friend - you are new to the game - provide the info someone will help you out.
Bez
bigbull338
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if you put angus bull on limmy cow your breeding horns outta them if you put a horned bull on polled cows your breeding horns on them scott
jerry27150
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red limi's & black bull =mostly black calves without horns. occasionally a red one or one with horns
jerry27150
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unless bull has recessive red then you would get alot of reds
Heck you gotta clarify that for me.
I bred HH bulls to both last year - horned had horned calves. Polled had polled calves.
I AI'd polled bulls to both last year - Horned had polled calves. Polled had polled calves.
The way I see it I just disproved you. Not looking to argue - just looking for a clearer explanation.
Bez
bigbull338
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well now bez you pulled the kicker outta the hat that i had forgotten in AI there are some horned bulls that have some polled in their bloodlines just as the polled has horned blood in them and they can throw horned or plled calves b/c of whats in the bloodline of the cow they are bred to scott
I will give you a better break down:
I bred HH bulls to both last year - staright Red Angus and straight HH - horned had horned calves. Polled had polled calves.
I AI'd polled bulls to both last year - straight Red Angus semen (Monu) - Horned had polled calves. Polled had polled calves.
So you now have me confused enough that I am having a tough time remembering anything!
Be that as it may, I know second time around you can get either. It is the first that I do not get.
Probably should have stated that on the first go around.
Wewild - it's just a conversation - I have no plans to look it up. On this operation horns are never an issue anyways. They have them or they do not. I cut what I ship and all others keep 'em if they got 'em.
Apologies for the confusion folks.
Bez
bigbull338
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bez im like you have both the horned an polled cows and im not fighting with you i disslike horns so when i buy bulls they dont gots horns scott
the answer is yes it makes a really good cross, regardless of color. you will have black polled calves unless the angus has red genes then you might get some red polled calves. the calves should be average in size at birth and how well they grow will be determined by how well your limousins milk
greenwillowherefords
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Bez":gmjhsn8x said:
Bez is right. We used a HH bull on PH cows for two years. Only had one horned calf, and there were scurs in that cow's pedigree. From the reading I"ve done, it doesn't matter, polled is dominant, and will prevail 83% of the time.
Did not figure you were - just wondering why my results with polled and horned breeding were different than yours.
I figure there is something to learn here - just too d@mned lazy to go look it up.
We are HH crossing to Angus and to HH. We have guests that are Angus and we cross to HH upon ocaission.
Bez
Wewild
There was a time I could calculate the time of flight of a bullet / the lead required for a high angle snap shot / dive angle of a bomb delivery / lead a strike flight of up to 16 aircraft / talk to 27 different controllers with as many accents / drive the whole shebang to an on time and on target delivery - while avoiding various types of people who wanted to hurt me and my buddies - all while flying at or below 200 feet agl at 480 knots pushing to 540 knots for delivery.
But that site you mentioned - I went there - Greek to me.
So that should tell you I have talents in places other than logic and science.
Bez
There was a time I could calculate the time of flight of a bullet / the lead required for a high angle snap shot / dive angle of a bomb delivery / lead a strike flight of up to 16 aircraft / talk to 27 different controllers with as many accents / drive the whole shebang to an on time and on target delivery - while avoiding various types of people who wanted to hurt me and my buddies - all while flying at or below 200 feet agl at 480 knots pushing to 540 knots for delivery.
But that site you mentioned - I went there - Greek to me.
So that should tell you I have talents in places other than logic and science.
Bez
greenwillowherefords
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Wewild":3occirr2 said:
OK I read it. And that is supposed to prove me wrong? Our polled cows were for the most part from herds that had been strictly polled (No HH genes for decades) Therefore by your own link it was no surprise that their calves were polled headed. I didn't say that they were homogyzous(?) polled, just that they didn't have horns.
Bez":301txf1z said:
You just mentioned many things defined by physics ..... we should talk later on the issue of horn verse polled ... A man or woman that can do what you have done has my admiration ... I'll PM you later on.
jerry27150
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bez, i always thought one polled parent= polled calf, had one 3/4 angus cow i bred to a polled hereford bull for two years & her calf had horns both years. go figure. also have a horned gert on my herd & i am getting some horns from polled cows also. guess everything has its exceptions.
