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<blockquote data-quote="Brute 23" data-source="post: 1715450" data-attributes="member: 6291"><p>That's every where. Coyotes, Bobcats, Mt Lions and even house dogs can have a big impact on your deer herd. There are huge anthrax kill offs also. The stats for deer hit by cars is amazing also. Hunters are actually way down on the list. </p><p></p><p>When I was a kid some if the places we had you couldnt even see a buck. People would peel the hide back off the nubs to claim it was a buck. They took pictures with 2 yr old 4 pts. People use to complain about not being able to kill does and would blame genetics on the lack of big mature bucks. Fast forward to now there are 140 and 150 class bucks being taken off the exact same properties. The meat hunters say I dont care about horns but they can take 2 buck and usually a doe per 50ac as opposed only one buck that they were lucky to see 25 years ago. The one mature buck is producing twice the meat that nubbin buck would. </p><p></p><p>The land hasn't changed, the genetics haven't changed, the food hasn't changed... in fact the conditions may have gotten worse due to land being tracked up and over grazing. The only thing that has changed is the mentality of how to manage deer and it has paid dividends.</p><p></p><p>It's amazing how nature will heal itself if we let it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Brute 23, post: 1715450, member: 6291"] That's every where. Coyotes, Bobcats, Mt Lions and even house dogs can have a big impact on your deer herd. There are huge anthrax kill offs also. The stats for deer hit by cars is amazing also. Hunters are actually way down on the list. When I was a kid some if the places we had you couldnt even see a buck. People would peel the hide back off the nubs to claim it was a buck. They took pictures with 2 yr old 4 pts. People use to complain about not being able to kill does and would blame genetics on the lack of big mature bucks. Fast forward to now there are 140 and 150 class bucks being taken off the exact same properties. The meat hunters say I dont care about horns but they can take 2 buck and usually a doe per 50ac as opposed only one buck that they were lucky to see 25 years ago. The one mature buck is producing twice the meat that nubbin buck would. The land hasn't changed, the genetics haven't changed, the food hasn't changed... in fact the conditions may have gotten worse due to land being tracked up and over grazing. The only thing that has changed is the mentality of how to manage deer and it has paid dividends. It's amazing how nature will heal itself if we let it. [/QUOTE]
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