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<blockquote data-quote="SPH" data-source="post: 1404570" data-attributes="member: 20580"><p>The udders aren't what you'd consider ideal but everyone has their own definition of what they consider "functional" so I think what 1 guy feels is a poor udder another guy might think it's still functional and will deal with it as long as they raise a good calf. We have a couple cows that have a big teat at birth that occasionally may have to milk it out but once the calf starts nursing it's no longer a problem and those cows are performing too well to just cull them based off a less than ideal udder when they still wean a good calf.</p><p></p><p>Everyone has to make choices based on their environment and management practices. I think the small frame size of those cattle is a reason we'd never use them but that isn't to say that in someone else's operation they could be functional genetics for them. Our ideal frame size for our cows are 5-6 frame so a 2 or 3 frame bull would be way too moderate for us. Also not a fan of 7 frame cattle either, they can be hard do'ers here.</p><p></p><p>Here's an example of what we use when we do our udder scores: <a href="http://www.hereford.org/member-services/herd-management-tools/udder-scores/" target="_blank">http://www.hereford.org/member-services ... er-scores/</a> The first number would be udder suspension and 2nd number teat score. Personally we would like to have cows that were all like the examples of 55, 74, or 77 kind of udders but realistically we have a few that don't fall in that range but I would still consider them to have functional udders.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SPH, post: 1404570, member: 20580"] The udders aren't what you'd consider ideal but everyone has their own definition of what they consider "functional" so I think what 1 guy feels is a poor udder another guy might think it's still functional and will deal with it as long as they raise a good calf. We have a couple cows that have a big teat at birth that occasionally may have to milk it out but once the calf starts nursing it's no longer a problem and those cows are performing too well to just cull them based off a less than ideal udder when they still wean a good calf. Everyone has to make choices based on their environment and management practices. I think the small frame size of those cattle is a reason we'd never use them but that isn't to say that in someone else's operation they could be functional genetics for them. Our ideal frame size for our cows are 5-6 frame so a 2 or 3 frame bull would be way too moderate for us. Also not a fan of 7 frame cattle either, they can be hard do'ers here. Here's an example of what we use when we do our udder scores: [url=http://www.hereford.org/member-services/herd-management-tools/udder-scores/]http://www.hereford.org/member-services ... er-scores/[/url] The first number would be udder suspension and 2nd number teat score. Personally we would like to have cows that were all like the examples of 55, 74, or 77 kind of udders but realistically we have a few that don't fall in that range but I would still consider them to have functional udders. [/QUOTE]
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