It is a shame how family will sometimes $crew you over

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This is going to be another one of my too long posts, so just skip it if you don't want to read it, :)

There is an elderly couple that I know that are in their 80's now, and were friends with my parents over the years. Both had worked at the carpet mills around here, and have been retired now about 15 years or so. They have about 20 acres, and for years he has kept about a dozen cows, and they used to raise a big garden. Sold produce out of it and she did a lot of making preserves and other kinds of canning. But the last year or so , he has developed Parkinson's disease pretty bad. His hands and arms are continuously jerking, and his legs do when he is sitting,. She is kind of frail, and has mascular degeneration and can't see too well.

She called me Monday night while I was at an open mic, and asked me if II could come help them with something. They had decided to sell their cows, and they had a nephew, I think he is, that lived close by, and he told them if they got the cows up into their holding pen, he'd come by on his way to the sale Tuesday morning, and carry them to the sale for them ( for $150). This dude is in his 50's and lives maybe 3 miles from them. This dude has about 75-100 acres and runs about 50-60 brood cows himself.

The couple have maybe a 1/2 acre lot by their barn, and under part of the barn they have some nice working pens, that is easy to load out from. Monday evening, they were going to get the cows into the lot, and get up early Tuesday morning and put them in the working pen. Nephew said he wouldn't do that... for them to have them in the pen ready to load when he got there. So Mr. Jackson was going to put a round bale in the lot and shut them up in it. Well, with his Parkinson's he took down about 40 feet of the fence. Mrs. Jackson called me to see if I knew someone she could get to come fix it. She said when she called Nephew and told him, he said he didn't have time, and if they could get it fixed, he'd try to haul them next week. If not. he'd see what they were bringing Tuesday, and just buy them himself, and haul them when they got the lot fixed.

I went over there Tuesday morning to see what all we were dealing with. The lot was 6 x6 treated posts, with what looked like motor oil-covered rough cut 2x 8 oak for the rails. It has a 10' metal gate, and he just couldn't hold the tractor straight enough to get in with the hay. He had 6 Angus cows, 3 Herefords, 4 black baldies. what looked like a red angus and one Charolais. All of them had calves except for the Char, but she is going to calve any day now. These were fairly nice cows, about 1000lbs+ for the smallest angus, and about 1200 on the biggest, the Char. Oldest calf was born around Christmas, they said, and the youngest was about a week old. All black or BWF. 8 bull calves and 6 heifers.

Told them I could get this fixed pretty easy...just needed to call the saw mill and get them to get up some 2 x 8 oak. I told them mean time I was going to bring over some metal corral panels, and put them up til we got it fixed. I called Clay and asked him if he would load up about 8-10 at my place and bring them over. Wasn't an hour til he showed up with the panels, and his boss Mike rode with him. Mr,. Jackson hadn't hit the gate post, thank God...he had hit the post the gate closed against. So, we had the panels up in no time, and were sitting around drinking the tea Mrs, Jackson brought out to his, shooting the breeze, when Nephew showed up .

I had never talked to the man...had seen him around and knew who he was, but I had already developed a strong dislike for the POS because he wouldn't help them get the cows caught or offer to fix the fence. He got out and walked over to us and told Mr, Jackson: " Well I told you I'll just pay you what they would have brought today, and get them out of here later. You are lucky...today they were high. Good cows like yours were bringing $1500 a pair! So that's what I will give you, and you won't have to pay sales commission or a fee to me to haul them. That ole Charolais is about to calve, so I will just give you the $1500 for her, too, and for that old Angus bull of yours." ( The bull is about 1400 lbs...maybe 1500). He told Mr. Jackson that as soon as the grass got a little better, he'd bring some of his calves over ,so that Mr, Jackson wouldn't have to pay someone to keep it bushhogged!!

Well, that just flew all over me ( and Mike and Clay, too) so I told him that wouldn't be neccessary, that I would haul them to the sale for him. That kinda pissed him off. Then Mike told them " Mr. Jackson, if you want me to, I will pay you $2500 a pair, including the Charolais and that bull, and if you will let me. I will rent your pasture for $1500 a year, starting today, I need a place to keep a few horses after I move these cows, anyhow. And I will come back and fix that corral fence, and keep the place up for you as far as bushhogging, etc,"

Nephew got all red faced, and started toward Mr, Jackson, raising his voice shouting : " Uncle Hugh we had a deal". But Clay stepped up and got his arm, and took him aside and explained to him the best deal he was going to get today was to get in his truck and go on home. And he did. That pos knew good and well he was trying to take advantage of this old couple, and them even being kin! After he left, Mike even told us that when he sold these cows and calves, if they brought more he'd even split the difference with Mr. Jackson.

I got the best deal, though., Mrs. Jackson gave us 3 each a jar of pear preserves, home made sweet pickles and a jar of the squash relish she makes. Mike said" let me pay you for these, Mrs. Jackson". I shook my head at him though. No way would we have charged them for putting up those panels, but they would have felt bad if they didn't get to pay us something. These are old-school, hard-working country folks, that deserve respect and dignity. Besides, I wouldn't take $50 a jar for what she gave me...that stuff is good!
 
This is going to be another one of my too long posts, so just skip it if you don't want to read it, :)

There is an elderly couple that I know that are in their 80's now, and were friends with my parents over the years. Both had worked at the carpet mills around here, and have been retired now about 15 years or so. They have about 20 acres, and for years he has kept about a dozen cows, and they used to raise a big garden. Sold produce out of it and she did a lot of making preserves and other kinds of canning. But the last year or so , he has developed Parkinson's disease pretty bad. His hands and arms are continuously jerking, and his legs do when he is sitting,. She is kind of frail, and has mascular degeneration and can't see too well.

She called me Monday night while I was at an open mic, and asked me if II could come help them with something. They had decided to sell their cows, and they had a nephew, I think he is, that lived close by, and he told them if they got the cows up into their holding pen, he'd come by on his way to the sale Tuesday morning, and carry them to the sale for them ( for $150). This dude is in his 50's and lives maybe 3 miles from them. This dude has about 75-100 acres and runs about 50-60 brood cows himself.

The couple have maybe a 1/2 acre lot by their barn, and under part of the barn they have some nice working pens, that is easy to load out from. Monday evening, they were going to get the cows into the lot, and get up early Tuesday morning and put them in the working pen. Nephew said he wouldn't do that... for them to have them in the pen ready to load when he got there. So Mr. Jackson was going to put a round bale in the lot and shut them up in it. Well, with his Parkinson's he took down about 40 feet of the fence. Mrs. Jackson called me to see if I knew someone she could get to come fix it. She said when she called Nephew and told him, he said he didn't have time, and if they could get it fixed, he'd try to haul them next week. If not. he'd see what they were bringing Tuesday, and just buy them himself, and haul them when they got the lot fixed.

I went over there Tuesday morning to see what all we were dealing with. The lot was 6 x6 treated posts, with what looked like motor oil-covered rough cut 2x 8 oak for the rails. It has a 10' metal gate, and he just couldn't hold the tractor straight enough to get in with the hay. He had 6 Angus cows, 3 Herefords, 4 black baldies. what looked like a red angus and one Charolais. All of them had calves except for the Char, but she is going to calve any day now. These were fairly nice cows, about 1000lbs+ for the smallest angus, and about 1200 on the biggest, the Char. Oldest calf was born around Christmas, they said, and the youngest was about a week old. All black or BWF. 8 bull calves and 6 heifers.

Told them I could get this fixed pretty easy...just needed to call the saw mill and get them to get up some 2 x 8 oak. I told them mean time I was going to bring over some metal corral panels, and put them up til we got it fixed. I called Clay and asked him if he would load up about 8-10 at my place and bring them over. Wasn't an hour til he showed up with the panels, and his boss Mike rode with him. Mr,. Jackson hadn't hit the gate post, thank God...he had hit the post the gate closed against. So, we had the panels up in no time, and were sitting around drinking the tea Mrs, Jackson brought out to his, shooting the breeze, when Nephew showed up .

I had never talked to the man...had seen him around and knew who he was, but I had already developed a strong dislike for the POS because he wouldn't help them get the cows caught or offer to fix the fence. He got out and walked over to us and told Mr, Jackson: " Well I told you I'll just pay you what they would have brought today, and get them out of here later. You are lucky...today they were high. Good cows like yours were bringing $1500 a pair! So that's what I will give you, and you won't have to pay sales commission or a fee to me to haul them. That ole Charolais is about to calve, so I will just give you the $1500 for her, too, and for that old Angus bull of yours." ( The bull is about 1400 lbs...maybe 1500). He told Mr. Jackson that as soon as the grass got a little better, he'd bring some of his calves over ,so that Mr, Jackson wouldn't have to pay someone to keep it bushhogged!!

Well, that just flew all over me ( and Mike and Clay, too) so I told him that wouldn't be neccessary, that I would haul them to the sale for him. That kinda pissed him off. Then Mike told them " Mr. Jackson, if you want me to, I will pay you $2500 a pair, including the Charolais and that bull, and if you will let me. I will rent your pasture for $1500 a year, starting today, I need a place to keep a few horses after I move these cows, anyhow. And I will come back and fix that corral fence, and keep the place up for you as far as bushhogging, etc,"

Nephew got all red faced, and started toward Mr, Jackson, raising his voice shouting : " Uncle Hugh we had a deal". But Clay stepped up and got his arm, and took him aside and explained to him the best deal he was going to get today was to get in his truck and go on home. And he did. That pos knew good and well he was trying to take advantage of this old couple, and them even being kin! After he left, Mike even told us that when he sold these cows and calves, if they brought more he'd even split the difference with Mr. Jackson.

I got the best deal, though., Mrs. Jackson gave us 3 each a jar of pear preserves, home made sweet pickles and a jar of the squash relish she makes. Mike said" let me pay you for these, Mrs. Jackson". I shook my head at him though. No way would we have charged them for putting up those panels, but they would have felt bad if they didn't get to pay us something. These are old-school, hard-working country folks, that deserve respect and dignity. Besides, I wouldn't take $50 a jar for what she gave me...that stuff is good!

You write a good yarn, Warren... I'll give you that. Hope it's all true and everyone gets what they deserve out of it.
 
Sounds like you,Mike and Clay did what everyone in this business should do. Helped those people in several ways not expecting anything in return.
You were also right in letting them have some dignity by accepting their gifts.
Well, the fact that he wouldn't help them get them up, and was going to charge them $150 to haul them to the sale 25 miles away, that he goes to every Tuesday anyway, was pretty crappy, I thought. But it's none of my business. What goes around comes around, ya know? But when he sat there and told them he was going to do them a favor by giving them $1500 a pair...that that was how much they were worth...we just felt like it was time to take up for them. I have two biker brothers that I have rode with for years, both just a year or two older than me, that have Parkinson's. It is a terrible, cruel disease. Most people I know in the cow business around here, would have helped someone like that gather them up and haul them to the sale, even if they didn't know them. Can't believe their own kin wouldn't. To tell you the truth, I was secretly kinda hoping ole Nephew was gonna pop off or take a swing at Clay.
 
This is going to be another one of my too long posts, so just skip it if you don't want to read it, :)

There is an elderly couple that I know that are in their 80's now, and were friends with my parents over the years. Both had worked at the carpet mills around here, and have been retired now about 15 years or so. They have about 20 acres, and for years he has kept about a dozen cows, and they used to raise a big garden. Sold produce out of it and she did a lot of making preserves and other kinds of canning. But the last year or so , he has developed Parkinson's disease pretty bad. His hands and arms are continuously jerking, and his legs do when he is sitting,. She is kind of frail, and has mascular degeneration and can't see too well.

She called me Monday night while I was at an open mic, and asked me if II could come help them with something. They had decided to sell their cows, and they had a nephew, I think he is, that lived close by, and he told them if they got the cows up into their holding pen, he'd come by on his way to the sale Tuesday morning, and carry them to the sale for them ( for $150). This dude is in his 50's and lives maybe 3 miles from them. This dude has about 75-100 acres and runs about 50-60 brood cows himself.

The couple have maybe a 1/2 acre lot by their barn, and under part of the barn they have some nice working pens, that is easy to load out from. Monday evening, they were going to get the cows into the lot, and get up early Tuesday morning and put them in the working pen. Nephew said he wouldn't do that... for them to have them in the pen ready to load when he got there. So Mr. Jackson was going to put a round bale in the lot and shut them up in it. Well, with his Parkinson's he took down about 40 feet of the fence. Mrs. Jackson called me to see if I knew someone she could get to come fix it. She said when she called Nephew and told him, he said he didn't have time, and if they could get it fixed, he'd try to haul them next week. If not. he'd see what they were bringing Tuesday, and just buy them himself, and haul them when they got the lot fixed.

I went over there Tuesday morning to see what all we were dealing with. The lot was 6 x6 treated posts, with what looked like motor oil-covered rough cut 2x 8 oak for the rails. It has a 10' metal gate, and he just couldn't hold the tractor straight enough to get in with the hay. He had 6 Angus cows, 3 Herefords, 4 black baldies. what looked like a red angus and one Charolais. All of them had calves except for the Char, but she is going to calve any day now. These were fairly nice cows, about 1000lbs+ for the smallest angus, and about 1200 on the biggest, the Char. Oldest calf was born around Christmas, they said, and the youngest was about a week old. All black or BWF. 8 bull calves and 6 heifers.

Told them I could get this fixed pretty easy...just needed to call the saw mill and get them to get up some 2 x 8 oak. I told them mean time I was going to bring over some metal corral panels, and put them up til we got it fixed. I called Clay and asked him if he would load up about 8-10 at my place and bring them over. Wasn't an hour til he showed up with the panels, and his boss Mike rode with him. Mr,. Jackson hadn't hit the gate post, thank God...he had hit the post the gate closed against. So, we had the panels up in no time, and were sitting around drinking the tea Mrs, Jackson brought out to his, shooting the breeze, when Nephew showed up .

I had never talked to the man...had seen him around and knew who he was, but I had already developed a strong dislike for the POS because he wouldn't help them get the cows caught or offer to fix the fence. He got out and walked over to us and told Mr, Jackson: " Well I told you I'll just pay you what they would have brought today, and get them out of here later. You are lucky...today they were high. Good cows like yours were bringing $1500 a pair! So that's what I will give you, and you won't have to pay sales commission or a fee to me to haul them. That ole Charolais is about to calve, so I will just give you the $1500 for her, too, and for that old Angus bull of yours." ( The bull is about 1400 lbs...maybe 1500). He told Mr. Jackson that as soon as the grass got a little better, he'd bring some of his calves over ,so that Mr, Jackson wouldn't have to pay someone to keep it bushhogged!!

Well, that just flew all over me ( and Mike and Clay, too) so I told him that wouldn't be neccessary, that I would haul them to the sale for him. That kinda pissed him off. Then Mike told them " Mr. Jackson, if you want me to, I will pay you $2500 a pair, including the Charolais and that bull, and if you will let me. I will rent your pasture for $1500 a year, starting today, I need a place to keep a few horses after I move these cows, anyhow. And I will come back and fix that corral fence, and keep the place up for you as far as bushhogging, etc,"

Nephew got all red faced, and started toward Mr, Jackson, raising his voice shouting : " Uncle Hugh we had a deal". But Clay stepped up and got his arm, and took him aside and explained to him the best deal he was going to get today was to get in his truck and go on home. And he did. That pos knew good and well he was trying to take advantage of this old couple, and them even being kin! After he left, Mike even told us that when he sold these cows and calves, if they brought more he'd even split the difference with Mr. Jackson.

I got the best deal, though., Mrs. Jackson gave us 3 each a jar of pear preserves, home made sweet pickles and a jar of the squash relish she makes. Mike said" let me pay you for these, Mrs. Jackson". I shook my head at him though. No way would we have charged them for putting up those panels, but they would have felt bad if they didn't get to pay us something. These are old-school, hard-working country folks, that deserve respect and dignity. Besides, I wouldn't take $50 a jar for what she gave me...that stuff is good!
i have to take turns reading with one eye then the other, but a good read.

a great story with a positive ending. that is what real people do for others who need help. to me just being able to help is the important thing, making/losing money on the deal is not important. you and your friends did well to help.

this is not about me, but i lost one grandfather to parkinsons when he was much younger than i am now. family and friends did a tremendous amount to help.

best wishes for the jackson's
 
i have to take turns reading with one eye then the other, but a good read.

a great story with a positive ending. that is what real people do for others who need help. to me just being able to help is the important thing, making/losing money on the deal is not important. you and your friends did well to help.

this is not about me, but i lost one grandfather to parkinsons when he was much younger than i am now. family and friends did a tremendous amount to help.

best wishes for the jackson's
Thanks ,MACVSOG. I honestly don't think I or the other 2 boys did anything other than what any other decent man would do. I was still kinda pissed about ole Nephew when I wrote this, and just wanted to vent, I guess. Sorry about your grandpa, Parkinsons sucks.
 
Mr. Hugh( Jackson) called me this morning to see if I had found some rough cut 2x 8's at the saw mill. I told him that yes, they can cut some, but remember that Mike said he was going to rebuild that lot for you, so we didn't need to buy any. He told me Nephew came by to see him yesterday, and told Hugh he was wanting to go ahead and buy them like he said he would. Hugh told him that no, he was just going to deal with Mike. He said Nephew told him he hoped Hugh got a signed contract, that this was his last chance...that after yesterday he wouldn't buy his cows for a nickel or haul them for him for any amount of money, and if Mike backed out, Hugh would be in a mess! Hugh told him he had known Mike since he was in diapers, that he had hauled hay for Mike's dad when he was a teen, and Mike was a little boy. He said that Mike's word held more weight than any signed contract, that what he said was always what he'd do. And he said he was the same way, that he told Mike he had a deal, and nothing would make him go back on his word to Mike either. He told Nephew he would never insult Mike like that by asking for a contract, nor would Mike ever insult Mr. Hugh by asking him to sign one.

I am the same way. If I was going to do business with someone, and felt like I need a contract I would just not do business with them.
 
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And he said he was the same way, that he told Mike he had a deal, and nothing would make him go back on his word to Mike either. He told Nephew he would neve insult Mike like that by asking for a contract, nor would Mike ever insult Mr. Hugh by asking him to sign one.

I am the same way. If I was going to do business with someone, and felt like I need a contra

Sounds a little hollow to me... and I'm trying to give you the benefit of the doubt. In fact I still wonder about the sock-puppet thing and whether you're having conversations with yourself cause there are some that don't ring true. Sorry Hoss... but claiming you don't need a contract after what you pulled means you definitely need a contract and maybe even better just find someone else where their handshake means something.
 

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