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<blockquote data-quote="farmerjan" data-source="post: 1391408" data-attributes="member: 25884"><p>I am not saying that the 1 1/2 % of body weight is too much in general; I was just concerned that you started them out with such a glut of grain when they hadn't had any. Acidosis is a big problem with dairy animals, and it can cause them to go off feed, and all kinds of foot problems and other stuff.</p><p></p><p>Dun is right, free choice hay and split the grain and they do need to clean it up in 15 to 20 min if it takes that. Our animals have hay, or pasture, free choice in front of them all the time. We feed very little grain except to the weaned calves, and they always have hay in front of them.</p><p></p><p>It sounds like the couple that were weaned too young and only had pasture all summer probably did very little growing. You may never see them really catch up if they got stunted. Do they get in to eat with the others or do they get pushed out? You may find they aren't getting as much as they should and the bigger ones are getting more than their fair share.</p><p></p><p>Like Son of Butch said also, they were telling you that that first huge grain feeding was not sitting well with them. Also, we have always found that if you limit feed hay for any reason, that you should feed grain an hour or two after they have eaten their hay and the stomach has started to work a bit. Just seems to not upset their gut as much. But that is not a problem if they have free choice hay.</p><p></p><p>What breed are they? Dairy influenced will need to be fed a little differently than beef ones. And see what Clinch is doing, tells you that he is feeding less than half of what you are, for bigger animals.</p><p>You might need to go to a higher protein and feed a little less so that they are getting more nutrients than quantity. I know there are differing opinions on tubs, but did you think about a tub to help supple the protein needs for them and then they will not be getting such a glut of it at a time since they are somewhat self limiting? We are using tubs at 2 pastures where we have heifers that do not get fed grain except a couple of times a week to check on them. The tubs help to "even out" their protein needs. The grain keeps them coming in when they see us, and we can check on them better, and makes it easier to catch them up when we need to.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="farmerjan, post: 1391408, member: 25884"] I am not saying that the 1 1/2 % of body weight is too much in general; I was just concerned that you started them out with such a glut of grain when they hadn't had any. Acidosis is a big problem with dairy animals, and it can cause them to go off feed, and all kinds of foot problems and other stuff. Dun is right, free choice hay and split the grain and they do need to clean it up in 15 to 20 min if it takes that. Our animals have hay, or pasture, free choice in front of them all the time. We feed very little grain except to the weaned calves, and they always have hay in front of them. It sounds like the couple that were weaned too young and only had pasture all summer probably did very little growing. You may never see them really catch up if they got stunted. Do they get in to eat with the others or do they get pushed out? You may find they aren't getting as much as they should and the bigger ones are getting more than their fair share. Like Son of Butch said also, they were telling you that that first huge grain feeding was not sitting well with them. Also, we have always found that if you limit feed hay for any reason, that you should feed grain an hour or two after they have eaten their hay and the stomach has started to work a bit. Just seems to not upset their gut as much. But that is not a problem if they have free choice hay. What breed are they? Dairy influenced will need to be fed a little differently than beef ones. And see what Clinch is doing, tells you that he is feeding less than half of what you are, for bigger animals. You might need to go to a higher protein and feed a little less so that they are getting more nutrients than quantity. I know there are differing opinions on tubs, but did you think about a tub to help supple the protein needs for them and then they will not be getting such a glut of it at a time since they are somewhat self limiting? We are using tubs at 2 pastures where we have heifers that do not get fed grain except a couple of times a week to check on them. The tubs help to "even out" their protein needs. The grain keeps them coming in when they see us, and we can check on them better, and makes it easier to catch them up when we need to. [/QUOTE]
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