I start with behavior when deciding if time is up. I won't have a bull around that won't respect me, whether on foot in the pasture or on the lead of a halter/nose ring. I also expect the same level of respect for the dogs and anyone on horseback. In my situation, they are all handled frequently, so they have no excuse for bad behavior. After attitude is considered, then comes their ability to maintain condition in my program. They don't have it rough, but they aren't babied either. Next, I look at marketability. If he ain't working to make me money, either in our herds or a client's, it's hard to justify keeping one. And to be perfectly honest, sentimentality plays a part. I have two bulls (Titan and Maxxum) who will be buried on the place. They still check all the boxes marked above, but eventually they will cost me money instead of making it, and I am OK with that... :cboy: