Hereford breeders

[Frankie]

You might want to get in the discussion at the link below:


http://dgroups.agriculture.com/n/pfx/fo ... cattletalk

 

[Angus Guy]

Frankie

I read the link and believe the writer is a little off base. Herefords always have and always will be a intregal part of the cattle business.

 

[Frankie]

Frankie

I read the link and believe the writer is a little off base. Herefords always have and always will be a intregal part of the cattle business.

Well, he does claim to be a long-time Hereford breeder. But I agree with you and thought some people on this board might want to jump into the discussion. Guess not....

 

[bigbull338]

herefords will always have their place. look at all the crosses that came from herefords. as an old man once said herefords are king . scott

 

[anghere]

You might want to get in the discussion at the link below:

You know we have flip flopped quite a bit over the years. We started with whatever we could get. We then made the move to BA. From BA we went, Charolais, Beefmaster, Limo, RA, Hereford, and back to BA. I currently run Red Angus, Baldies, Black Angus, Herefords, RA/Hereford X, Brangus, and just a couple Charolais. Right now the Hereford X and Char X are bringing the best prices here. Ours hit the ground big and square. The Hereford influence seems to be desired by our buyers. We first got away from the Herefords because they seemed to get pinkeye and cancer eye quite a bit down here in the sun. We still have some cancer eye victims now and then but we try to not keep a full white face. Seems like if the eye doesn't have white round it they do real well. Sort of like this little 3 month old.

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[Frankie]

You know we have flip flopped quite a bit over the years. We started with whatever we could get. We then made the move to BA. From BA we went, Charolais, Beefmaster, Limo, RA, Hereford, and back to BA. I currently run Red Angus, Baldies, Black Angus, Herefords, RA/Hereford X, Brangus, and just a couple Charolais. Right now the Hereford X and Char X are bringing the best prices here. Ours hit the ground big and square. The Hereford influence seems to be desired by our buyers. We first got away from the Herefords because they seemed to get pinkeye and cancer eye quite a bit down here in the sun. We still have some cancer eye victims now and then but we try to not keep a full white face. Seems like if the eye doesn't have white round it they do real well. Sort of like this little 3 month old.

With the markings on her face, I'd have expected Simmental influence, not Hereford. But she's a pretty girl.

 

[greenwillowherefords]

Frankie

I read the link and believe the writer is a little off base. Herefords always have and always will be a intregal part of the cattle business.

Well, he does claim to be a long-time Hereford breeder. But I agree with you and thought some people on this board might want to jump into the discussion. Guess not....

Have you checked the link lately?

 

[anghere]

With the markings on her face, I'd have expected Simmental influence, not Hereford. But she's a pretty girl.

Pretty good catch Frankie. Her dad is polled Hereford and her mom is 7/8 Red Angus. This bull has always thrown WF calves with the exception of one that I remember. I called him Ugly. I think my Hereford bull had a bad day that day. :lol:

 

[Caustic Burno]

You might want to get in the discussion at the link below:

You know we have flip flopped quite a bit over the years. We started with whatever we could get. We then made the move to BA. From BA we went, Charolais, Beefmaster, Limo, RA, Hereford, and back to BA. I currently run Red Angus, Baldies, Black Angus, Herefords, RA/Hereford X, Brangus, and just a couple Charolais. Right now the Hereford X and Char X are bringing the best prices here. Ours hit the ground big and square. The Hereford influence seems to be desired by our buyers. We first got away from the Herefords because they seemed to get pinkeye and cancer eye quite a bit down here in the sun. We still have some cancer eye victims now and then but we try to not keep a full white face. Seems like if the eye doesn't have white round it they do real well. Sort of like this little 3 month old.

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Pinkeye is a poor management issue not poor cattle all breeds are susceptible to pinkeye.

 

[Caustic Burno]

I think the guy is nuts, the Hereford is a very efficient breed.
Herefords,Brammers and Angus are essential breeds or there crosses. Hats off to the Angus PR program, black hide does not cover poor cattle.

 

[Campground Cattle]

Frankie

I read the link and believe the writer is a little off base. Herefords always have and always will be a intregal part of the cattle business.

As a Hereford breeder I think you are correct. I have no beef with Angus, but I do see a problem as I have stated before with the direction of the beef industry. Cattlemen are trying to put Angus genetics in every breed, before long our gene pool will be as shallow as the dairy industry, which in the Holstien breed is down to just a few lines that are not related.
If you want to run black cattle run Angus or Brangus fine cattle, just quit screwing up the other purebreed gene pools.

 

[Angus Guy]

Caustic and Campground

It sure good to know that other good cattlemen feel that we shouldn't be messing with our base. Personally love black cattle, but know without the other breeds we wouldn't have much of a business.

 

[DOC HARRIS]

You might want to get in the discussion at the link below:

You know we have flip flopped quite a bit over the years. We started with whatever we could get. We then made the move to BA. From BA we went, Charolais, Beefmaster, Limo, RA, Hereford, and back to BA. I currently run Red Angus, Baldies, Black Angus, Herefords, RA/Hereford X, Brangus, and just a couple Charolais. Right now the Hereford X and Char X are bringing the best prices here. Ours hit the ground big and square. The Hereford influence seems to be desired by our buyers. We first got away from the Herefords because they seemed to get pinkeye and cancer eye quite a bit down here in the sun. We still have some cancer eye victims now and then but we try to not keep a full white face. Seems like if the eye doesn't have white round it they do real well. Sort of like this little 3 month old.

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Sounds as if you have a "Colorful" herd! :lol:

 

[tapeworm]

I think the guy is nuts, the Hereford is a very efficient breed.
Herefords,Brammers and Angus are essential breeds or there crosses. Hats off to the Angus PR program, black hide does not cover poor cattle.

Better sit down and have a strong drink Burro...me an you agree again.LOL

 

[anghere]

Sounds as if you have a "Colorful" herd! :lol:

Yeah, I'm not color blind nor am I breed prejudiced.

 

[anghere]

Pinkeye is a poor management issue not poor cattle all breeds are susceptible to pinkeye.

While I do agree with this statement, we have seen a much higher occurrence in WF cattle.

 

[greenwillowherefords]

Getting back to the original topic, there are no doubt areas where the general trends are not followed or noticed. I would even hazard a guess that somewhere in the U.S. of A, in some small corner, someone thinks Angus is on the way down. That does not make it so.

Based on what I am seeing, hearing, and reading, I think that the future of Herefords is brighter than it has been in most of my lifetime.

Anecdotal evidence: Friends who are Hereford breeders are telling me that they can not keep up with demand. Mr. Day of Day Herefords, and his brother both sold completely out of bulls early on. Many of these were purchased by a very large, black-hided commercial operation. Flying G has sold all their bulls. Another friend- sold out. An uncle purchased his first Hereford this year after three Angus bulls straight. Commercial breeders who are putting a white face on their herds with our genetics, and intend to continue to do so in the coming years.

Also encouraging: The rise of popularity of bulls who are from carcass bloodlines, not showring.

Average prices for Hereford bulls have been increasing according to the sales digest records at HW. The report of straight Herefords outselling black baldies at OKC West in El Reno. Campground's similar story from Texas. I am seeing more Hereford influence in the pastures around here.

I want to suspect that a breeder whose bull market is drying up after 40some years in the business, needs to examine the direction he has been taking his program.

 

[Campground Cattle]

Getting back to the original topic, there are no doubt areas where the general trends are not followed or noticed. I would even hazard a guess that somewhere in the U.S. of A, in some small corner, someone thinks Angus is on the way down. That does not make it so.

Based on what I am seeing, hearing, and reading, I think that the future of Herefords is brighter than it has been in most of my lifetime.

Anecdotal evidence: Friends who are Hereford breeders are telling me that they can not keep up with demand. Mr. Day of Day Herefords, and his brother both sold completely out of bulls early on. Many of these were purchased by a very large, black-hided commercial operation. Flying G has sold all their bulls. Another friend- sold out. An uncle purchased his first Hereford this year after three Angus bulls straight. Commercial breeders who are putting a white face on their herds with our genetics, and intend to continue to do so in the coming years.

Also encouraging: The rise of popularity of bulls who are from carcass bloodlines, not showring.

Average prices for Hereford bulls have been increasing according to the sales digest records at HW. The report of straight Herefords outselling black baldies at OKC West in El Reno. Campground's similar story from Texas. I am seeing more Hereford influence in the pastures around here.

I want to suspect that a breeder whose bull market is drying up after 40some years in the business, needs to examine the direction he has been taking his program.

Interesting Willow I am a small operation currently have 3 young bulls retaining 1 the others are sold. A man came out today and said he wanted to purchase every reg, Hereford heifer I had and those that were born for the rest of the year. That is an all time first.

 

[Mahoney Pursley Ranch]

Better get that " Registered Herefords" sign nailed out front on that tree Camp! :cboy:

 

[greenwillowherefords]

That is terrific news, Camp. I've heard tell that bull you are retaining is a humdinger. Got any pics?