Haygrazer

[Cross-7]

It's been wet and the haygrazer got away from us.
It's around 7-8' tall and headed out.
We are trying to get it laid down but the cutter keeps choking down and it's slow go.
Its probably going to make 4-5 bales to the acre and it's not going to be very good hay.
Me or my neighbor really want it.
It's going to cost 15.00 an acre to cut and 15.00 a bale, so it could get expensive.
Prussic acid worries me, so I won't graze it. I wanted to put wheat on it this fall.

What can I do with the overgrown haygrazer ?

 

[True Grit Farms]

Glyphosate and a fire would be the cheapest and easiest.

 

[Stocker Steve]

Graze,
Wrap,
or
Disc chisel

 

[Cross-7]

I guess worst case I could wait till after a hard freeze and turn the cows in or buy some thin weigh cows.
I don't know how well they'd eat it though, especially old thin weigh cows

I may just have him cut it and leave it and not bale it then turn the cows in this winter

 

[callmefence]

Graze it. If it's six foot tall and making seed heads your fine.

 

[Turkeybird]

Sounds like enough grazing to last until 2018

 

[callmefence]

Late planted field cut 10 days ago. You can see the new sprouts alongside the stubble.
This is where pa will be. Although as fast as it's recovering I bet it's safe.



Earlier planted field has been grazed once and cut once. That's why it's trying to seed at only about two foot tall. It currently has 22 pair's couple heifers and a bull in it. It's keeping up with them. Unless it gets very dry, then rains they will stay till dove season.

 

[Cross-7]

The grazed regrowth after a rain is when I've seen it get poisonous.
We get hot, dry and plant stress, but tend to big rains, so it's a good scenario for prussic acid.
It's not worth it to me to chance it

 

[Bigfoot]

I'd either test it, or send a couple out to test it for me. You (and everybody else) needs all the summer grazing they can get.

 

[callmefence]

The grazed regrowth after a rain is when I've seen it get poisonous.
We get hot, dry and plant stress, but tend to big rains, so it's a good scenario for prussic acid.
It's not worth it to me to chance it

A week of good regrowth is plenty to clear it.
I've probably done 100 pa and nitrate test over the past decade. I seriously doubt your plants ever got stressed. But if you wanna plant and fertilize something that you scared of good luck. Most large animal vets will test it. It's to volatile to mail off . Put one old cow in there for a few days.

 

[Cross-7]

When I was a kid my grandad had grazed down haygrazer. He had pulled them off.
Then it rained and it had grown back pretty good.
It had been two weeks since the rain and turned in the cows.
They started falling over dead.
We didn't have horses with us, just me and him on foot.
We lost 9 head before we finally got them out of there.
I've been scared of it since.
A freind of mine a few years ago lost some cows to it from feeding the hay.
He said he'd never had a problem before so he never tested for it.

 

[callmefence]

When I was a kid my grandad had grazed down haygrazer. He had pulled them off.
Then it rained and it had grown back pretty good.
It had been two weeks since the rain and turned in the cows.
They started falling over dead.
We didn't have horses with us, just me and him on foot.
We lost 9 head before we finally got them out of there.
I've been scared of it since.
A freind of mine a few years ago lost some cows to it from feeding the hay.
He said he'd never had a problem before so he never tested for it.

Cross I'd bet my hat both of those were due to nitrate poisoning. Not purasic acid
Definitely the hay incident.

 

[Cross-7]

I wonder the hay will be any count at all ?

 

[callmefence]

I wonder the hay will be any count at all ?

Protein is going to suffer. But it should be quite sweet. 30 dollars to get it cut and rolled is gonna be pretty much a wash e.

 

[Cross-7]

15 an acre cut
15 per bale
4 bales per acre so about 18.75 a bale
This being old growth there shouldn't be any PA

 

[callmefence]

Yeah I would be good with that

 

[Stocker Steve]

30 dollars to get it cut and rolled is gonna be pretty much a wash e.

disc chisel

 

[Cross-7]

30 dollars to get it cut and rolled is gonna be pretty much a wash e.

disc chisel

We've got too much in, but idk if it's worth throwing another 75 acre in to make hay or mow it and leave the windrows for the cows have this winter. Then next spring disc it and try again.

 

[Rajela]

Bale it and feed it...