True Grit Farms
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I need me some super duper Texas coastal bermuda hay fields.
JMJ Farms":1s8ol2gn said:Caustic Burno":1s8ol2gn said:My coastal field fertilized will easily produce 24 to 30 rolls per acre/year.
My Hay guy is going to bail it the next week or so when we get a break in the rain. I will try to get pictures.
I have to fertilize heavily to get good quality and quantity. I have one of the best hayfields around my parts. If I fertilize exactly according to soil tests and UGA recommendations AND get good rainfall I can average (4-5) 4x6 rolls per acre across 3 cuttings. That's as good as it's getting here. In a perfect world I may get (4) cuttings in one growing season but that has only happened once in the last 7 years and my avg that year was 15 bales/ac/year.
Caustic Burno":2yjth9qw said:JMJ Farms":2yjth9qw said:Caustic Burno":2yjth9qw said:My coastal field fertilized will easily produce 24 to 30 rolls per acre/year.
My Hay guy is going to bail it the next week or so when we get a break in the rain. I will try to get pictures.
I have to fertilize heavily to get good quality and quantity. I have one of the best hayfields around my parts. If I fertilize exactly according to soil tests and UGA recommendations AND get good rainfall I can average (4-5) 4x6 rolls per acre across 3 cuttings. That's as good as it's getting here. In a perfect world I may get (4) cuttings in one growing season but that has only happened once in the last 7 years and my avg that year was 15 bales/ac/year.
Unfertilized coastal no problem getting 6 4x5's to the acre, fertilized it will turn out ten easy. Bahia will give you four unfertilized six fertilized all day.
Anything less than that we call pasture not a hayfield.
JMJ Farms":2tm3cnd2 said:Caustic Burno":2tm3cnd2 said:JMJ Farms":2tm3cnd2 said:I have to fertilize heavily to get good quality and quantity. I have one of the best hayfields around my parts. If I fertilize exactly according to soil tests and UGA recommendations AND get good rainfall I can average (4-5) 4x6 rolls per acre across 3 cuttings. That's as good as it's getting here. In a perfect world I may get (4) cuttings in one growing season but that has only happened once in the last 7 years and my avg that year was 15 bales/ac/year.
Unfertilized coastal no problem getting 6 4x5's to the acre, fertilized it will turn out ten easy. Bahia will give you four unfertilized six fertilized all day.
Anything less than that we call pasture not a hayfield.
One difference between our yields is my rolls contain 30% more hay than yours. But even with that I'm not getting those kinds of yields. And no one else around here is either unless they have a center pivot.
CB yield fertilized Bermuda = 785 cubic feet per cutting. (10 rolls/acre @ 4x5 size rolls)
JMJ yield fertilized Bermuda = 508 cu feet per cutting (4.5 rolls/acre @ 4x6 size rolls)
Caustic Burno":5n59hqp7 said:JMJ Farms":5n59hqp7 said:Caustic Burno":5n59hqp7 said:Unfertilized coastal no problem getting 6 4x5's to the acre, fertilized it will turn out ten easy. Bahia will give you four unfertilized six fertilized all day.
Anything less than that we call pasture not a hayfield.
One difference between our yields is my rolls contain 30% more hay than yours. But even with that I'm not getting those kinds of yields. And no one else around here is either unless they have a center pivot.
CB yield fertilized Bermuda = 785 cubic feet per cutting. (10 rolls/acre @ 4x5 size rolls)
JMJ yield fertilized Bermuda = 508 cu feet per cutting (4.5 rolls/acre @ 4x6 size rolls)
That is my best field JMJ I have or ever had and it's only six acres. It has something that is just right. My Bahia hayfields routinely would yield 5 4x5's a cutting. That is fertilized at 400 pounds per acre. Where we get a jump most years we get first cutting in April.
My cattle prefer the Bahia over the Bermuda.
JMJ Farms":11qq6cze said:Mine like the Bahia too. Got a question for you CB (or anyone else for that matter). I can take a fresh roll of the best (TDN, protein, nitrates, sugar and everything else) hay you can find and roll it out. Then I can take one that has been sitting in the rain for 3 years that at least 1/2 rotten and roll it out beside it. Mine will go to the old hay first every time. Why?
Jogeephus":289ccn5q said:JMJ Farms":289ccn5q said:Mine like the Bahia too. Got a question for you CB (or anyone else for that matter). I can take a fresh roll of the best (TDN, protein, nitrates, sugar and everything else) hay you can find and roll it out. Then I can take one that has been sitting in the rain for 3 years that at least 1/2 rotten and roll it out beside it. Mine will go to the old hay first every time. Why?
Hence the reason there isn't an IQ rating on your EPD sheet. Not saying your cows are stupid ..... but mine are.
JMJ Farms":3i6h3jmc said:Caustic Burno":3i6h3jmc said:JMJ Farms":3i6h3jmc said:One difference between our yields is my rolls contain 30% more hay than yours. But even with that I'm not getting those kinds of yields. And no one else around here is either unless they have a center pivot.
CB yield fertilized Bermuda = 785 cubic feet per cutting. (10 rolls/acre @ 4x5 size rolls)
JMJ yield fertilized Bermuda = 508 cu feet per cutting (4.5 rolls/acre @ 4x6 size rolls)
That is my best field JMJ I have or ever had and it's only six acres. It has something that is just right. My Bahia hayfields routinely would yield 5 4x5's a cutting. That is fertilized at 400 pounds per acre. Where we get a jump most years we get first cutting in April.
My cattle prefer the Bahia over the Bermuda.
Mine like the Bahia too. Got a question for you CB (or anyone else for that matter). I can take a fresh roll of the best (TDN, protein, nitrates, sugar and everything else) hay you can find and roll it out. Then I can take one that has been sitting in the rain for 3 years that at least 1/2 rotten and roll it out beside it. Mine will go to the old hay first every time. Why?
JMJ Farms":3oe8abvq said:Caustic Burno":3oe8abvq said:Texasmark":3oe8abvq said:"My Bermuda would avg 12 rolls/ac/year." Which Bermuda do you have J? Coastal, Tifton 85, other?
My Bahia hayfield avengers more than 12 rolls to the acre a year.
CB, the Bahia I cut is what I call common Bahia. Not sure if that's the right name. I have a 17 acre pasture that is Pensacola. I fertilize it lightly each year and I can see how with proper management, fertilizer, and good rainfall it would do as good as the Bermuda. That stuff really puts out some forage.
jwimberly":19gtkyop said:I identified another type of major grass in my field as Dallisgrass also. What's the forums opinion on this stuff? It seems to do very well in these low creek bottoms this time of year. Last year on my second cutting I got 90 4x5's off about 15 acres so about 6 bales per acre. I did have to supplement last winter though so it must be a little low on protein?
Texasmark":3f3w4eyx said:JMJ Farms":3f3w4eyx said:Caustic Burno":3f3w4eyx said:My Bahia hayfield avengers more than 12 rolls to the acre a year.
CB, the Bahia I cut is what I call common Bahia. Not sure if that's the right name. I have a 17 acre pasture that is Pensacola. I fertilize it lightly each year and I can see how with proper management, fertilizer, and good rainfall it would do as good as the Bermuda. That stuff really puts out some forage.
Being new to the grass, I guess my (very) limited experiences weren't with "managed" crops. Will pay more attention to it. Maybe work up a little spot where it has taken over and see what happens. I don't have any idea as to what variety it is.
Maybe not.My bet being east Texas it's Argentine.
greybeard":2vtlw8gr said:Maybe not.My bet being east Texas it's Argentine.
When I bought hundreds of lbs of Bahia seed in 2006-07-08, to get bahia jump started after logging, it was all Pensacola.....Got it at the Co-op in Bryan. it's the only variety they had at the time.
Dogs and Cows":3m80nqkj said:I am fencing the entire spot with woven wire fence and figure I'll throw some goats in there early spring and pull them out and sell em in the fall...they should keep the brush down.
Tim