Have anyone ever used a AngusXCharloias bull
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Logan52
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Besides the other liabilities of using a crossbred bred bull, you would have a high percentage of smokey or whitish calves as a result.
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We used one 50+ years ago before CAB had a strangle hold on ranchers. Threw good enough calves, seemed to be a nice even blend
of the Charolais/Angus. No huge calves.
of the Charolais/Angus. No huge calves.
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Used an F1 char angus bull that we raised for a couple years. He was a a monster, high growth calf. But he didn't really pass that on to his calves.
Only used him two years and then pounded him out.
Only used him two years and then pounded him out.
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No personal experience. I see a lot of them being used on large farms in Kentucky where they run Charolais cross and Angus cross cows. As long as they are solid colored, they sell good for feeder calves. I believe the Charolais genetics should build frame for your calves.
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I like my local supplier who raises Lim-flex bulls for a cross breed bull. The calves have more length between the feet and nice flat backs! Figure paying between $3,500 to $6,000 for a good bull right now!
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We have crossed brangus cows with char bull for several years with great results on growth and confirmation. Sure been tempted to keep one of them but a local breeder that I respect greatly came by one day and said "this what you have been breeding for, why go another direction". I've stayed with that thought
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Dave
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B uses Angus and Charolias bulls. The bulls are purebreds. There are some Angus Char cross cows.
I have a herd of reg Brangus cows, and I breed about half to a homo for black and polled registered Simmental bull, and half to a homo for red and polled registered Charolais. All of the Charolais -sired calves are black and polled. I don't want to lose that black premium on a smoky calf. The Simmental calves are born a little bigger and heavier, but the Charolais grow faster and more, and by weaning have caught and often surpassed them a little, as far as weaning weight goes. I do not retain heifers. I consider these a terminal cross, but in 2021 I kept 3 heifers of each cross, and bred them back the other way. The Brangus x Simmental I bred to the Charolais, and the Brangus x Charolais I bred to the Simmental. This 3-way cross did nothing that I could see, as far as adding growth, weaning weights, etc. They just have less Brangus ear, is all. Their calves bring the same as the 2-way cross calves do, though, so I will keep these 6 until they age out.
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Maybe I'm not understanding. Your using a homo red char on black cows and getting black calves not smoky?
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Can the cows be homozygous for black and dominate the Charolais color ?
Travlr
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Not if the bull is white. That's why they've been developing a red Char, because black is dominant over red and doesn't dilute.
Yes. Black is dominant and red is recessive. A homo black crossed with any red will produce black calves. Charolais that are white have 2 copies of the dilute gene, and that is where the smoky color comes from. You see Charolais that are yellow or tan, or light red color, and these have 1 copy of the dilute gene. These stand a 50% chance of producing a smoky calf, when bred to a homozygous black.
