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<blockquote data-quote="Anonymous" data-source="post: 17389"><p>> A lot depends on how many head</p><p>> you're working and how wild they</p><p>> are. I completely concur that</p><p>> hoping and hollering should be</p><p>> last resort. Once they get stirred</p><p>> up there's no going back for the</p><p>> rest of the day. If you only run a</p><p>> few and are around them all the</p><p>> time then a lot can be</p><p>> accomplished the way you describe.</p><p>> If you are working a lot of cattle</p><p>> and they aren't that gentle,</p><p>> patience still pays.</p><p></p><p>> But just as important are good,</p><p>> strong, well designed working pens</p><p>> – and tall, so they can't jump out</p><p>> and you can climb. Our cattle are</p><p>> not crazy (they go to the sale if</p><p>> they get that way) but they don't</p><p>> have names and certainly aren't</p><p>> interested in connecting minds</p><p>> with anything that walks on two</p><p>> legs. A lot of cattle that act</p><p>> gentle in the pasture will get</p><p>> ornery when they realize they're</p><p>> trapped. The most important time</p><p>> to avoid getting them roused is</p><p>> when catching them. Once they are</p><p>> in good pens it's still best</p><p>> practice to keep things as calm as</p><p>> possible, but as the day wears on</p><p>> the height and strength of corrals</p><p>> and pens becomes more important.</p><p></p><p>> Craig-TX</p><p></p><p>I agree that the number of head with which you are working is a BIG factor. A lot of good practices employed by very small operators with 20 or 30 head, who interact with their cattle darn near every day, just has limited application for the larger operation. Some of my cattle were purchased from a large ranch that only worked cattle by horseback --- for a LONG time they were real calm if I drove up to them on my tractor, but if I approached on foot they high-tailed it. But I think that the passage of time, familiarity and proper treatment can cure 90% of the wildness problems.</p><p></p><p>I also agree as to HIGH corral walls. My chute walls are about 7 feet high, but my pen walls are only around 5.5 and that's just not high enough. A couple of my most "tame" cows have become agitated from time to time and jumped or climbed over the walls. I'd really like the walls to be at least a foot higher. In my experience it is even more important to have the lower board in the pens and chute real low to the ground. Many a calf, and some cows, will try to go under rather than over. If they can get their head under the lower board, in most cases they are gone a few seconds later, after breaking the lower board or boards.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Anonymous, post: 17389"] > A lot depends on how many head > you’re working and how wild they > are. I completely concur that > hoping and hollering should be > last resort. Once they get stirred > up there’s no going back for the > rest of the day. If you only run a > few and are around them all the > time then a lot can be > accomplished the way you describe. > If you are working a lot of cattle > and they aren’t that gentle, > patience still pays. > But just as important are good, > strong, well designed working pens > – and tall, so they can’t jump out > and you can climb. Our cattle are > not crazy (they go to the sale if > they get that way) but they don’t > have names and certainly aren’t > interested in connecting minds > with anything that walks on two > legs. A lot of cattle that act > gentle in the pasture will get > ornery when they realize they’re > trapped. The most important time > to avoid getting them roused is > when catching them. Once they are > in good pens it’s still best > practice to keep things as calm as > possible, but as the day wears on > the height and strength of corrals > and pens becomes more important. > Craig-TX I agree that the number of head with which you are working is a BIG factor. A lot of good practices employed by very small operators with 20 or 30 head, who interact with their cattle darn near every day, just has limited application for the larger operation. Some of my cattle were purchased from a large ranch that only worked cattle by horseback --- for a LONG time they were real calm if I drove up to them on my tractor, but if I approached on foot they high-tailed it. But I think that the passage of time, familiarity and proper treatment can cure 90% of the wildness problems. I also agree as to HIGH corral walls. My chute walls are about 7 feet high, but my pen walls are only around 5.5 and that's just not high enough. A couple of my most "tame" cows have become agitated from time to time and jumped or climbed over the walls. I'd really like the walls to be at least a foot higher. In my experience it is even more important to have the lower board in the pens and chute real low to the ground. Many a calf, and some cows, will try to go under rather than over. If they can get their head under the lower board, in most cases they are gone a few seconds later, after breaking the lower board or boards. [/QUOTE]
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