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<blockquote data-quote="Anonymous" data-source="post: 17376"><p>I actually prefer working large groups. There will alwasy be a few that just head up the alleyway. After the others see what's going on it seems they just get easier and easier. Until you get to the last few. The reason they're the last ones is beacuse they just plain don't want to co-operate. Those usually take a little more persuading.</p><p></p><p>Fortunetly, unless I'm helping a couple of other folks we don't have to mess with more then 30-40 or so. Something to be aid for getting too old to work a lot of cows.</p><p></p><p>dun</p><p></p><p>> I agree that the number of head</p><p>> with which you are working is a</p><p>> BIG factor. A lot of good</p><p>> practices employed by very small</p><p>> operators with 20 or 30 head, who</p><p>> interact with their cattle darn</p><p>> near every day, just has limited</p><p>> application for the larger</p><p>> operation. Some of my cattle were</p><p>> purchased from a large ranch that</p><p>> only worked cattle by horseback</p><p>> --- for a LONG time they were real</p><p>> calm if I drove up to them on my</p><p>> tractor, but if I approached on</p><p>> foot they high-tailed it. But I</p><p>> think that the passage of time,</p><p>> familiarity and proper treatment</p><p>> can cure 90% of the wildness</p><p>> problems.</p><p></p><p>> I also agree as to HIGH corral</p><p>> walls. My chute walls are about 7</p><p>> feet high, but my pen walls are</p><p>> only around 5.5 and that's just</p><p>> not high enough. A couple of my</p><p>> most "tame" cows have</p><p>> become agitated from time to time</p><p>> and jumped or climbed over the</p><p>> walls. I'd really like the walls</p><p>> to be at least a foot higher. In</p><p>> my experience it is even more</p><p>> important to have the lower board</p><p>> in the pens and chute real low to</p><p>> the ground. Many a calf, and some</p><p>> cows, will try to go under rather</p><p>> than over. If they can get their</p><p>> head under the lower board, in</p><p>> most cases they are gone a few</p><p>> seconds later, after breaking the</p><p>> lower board or boards.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p> <a href="mailto:dun@agserver.net">dun@agserver.net</a></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Anonymous, post: 17376"] I actually prefer working large groups. There will alwasy be a few that just head up the alleyway. After the others see what's going on it seems they just get easier and easier. Until you get to the last few. The reason they're the last ones is beacuse they just plain don't want to co-operate. Those usually take a little more persuading. Fortunetly, unless I'm helping a couple of other folks we don't have to mess with more then 30-40 or so. Something to be aid for getting too old to work a lot of cows. dun > I agree that the number of head > with which you are working is a > BIG factor. A lot of good > practices employed by very small > operators with 20 or 30 head, who > interact with their cattle darn > near every day, just has limited > application for the larger > operation. Some of my cattle were > purchased from a large ranch that > only worked cattle by horseback > --- for a LONG time they were real > calm if I drove up to them on my > tractor, but if I approached on > foot they high-tailed it. But I > think that the passage of time, > familiarity and proper treatment > can cure 90% of the wildness > problems. > I also agree as to HIGH corral > walls. My chute walls are about 7 > feet high, but my pen walls are > only around 5.5 and that's just > not high enough. A couple of my > most "tame" cows have > become agitated from time to time > and jumped or climbed over the > walls. I'd really like the walls > to be at least a foot higher. In > my experience it is even more > important to have the lower board > in the pens and chute real low to > the ground. Many a calf, and some > cows, will try to go under rather > than over. If they can get their > head under the lower board, in > most cases they are gone a few > seconds later, after breaking the > lower board or boards. [email=dun@agserver.net]dun@agserver.net[/email] [/QUOTE]
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