Goldfish in water troughs?

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Fish Wagon from Arkansas stops near here tomorrow. Im gonna buy a few and try.
I like the copper sulfate or bleach idea and will try it next spring. Might try all 3 and see which i like best.
When you posted this, I didn't know they went that far. We just had a couple new ponds stocked this evening and the driver said he was in South Carolina a week ago, and that one of his coworkers was on a route in Virginia, eastern Kentucky and Tennessee this week.
Bet it's the same outfit.60E021E5-1E7F-4AD5-9BB0-44E5EF126F34.jpeg
 
This is a Kohaku koi (red and white) imported from Japan I raised that took grand champion at a koi show. Here Kimitsu Konino, who's name means a military secret everybody knows, Kiko, is adult size at 32" long. I raised her from a 2 year old in a 10,000 gallon pond with 4 difffernt kinds of filters I built myself based on aquaculture techniques (raising food fish). The rich people would pay 18 grand to have a champion Japanese koi drop shipped overnight to them they didn't raise in ponds they didn't build and would take always grand champion. The little koi club people who raised their fish from babies and worried over their diet and when the power went off to the pond in storms got 3rd and forth. I did this to beat the millionaires at their own game. Seem like fish shows, dog shows, cat shows, horse shows are all alike. After this I was done. I let all my show koi go in the big pond below the house. Koi are carp. What they want to do is roll in the mud and eat algae and snails . All these koi are full size 30" plus and took 1st in their class for that variety.
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I put a small catfish in my Dad's water trough. The trough was just an old hot water heater with most of one side cut out. The fish did fine for a couple years until one winter when the trough froze solid.
 
My mom had a goldifsh in a plastic wading pool that froze solid, thawed out and lived. She was pretty amased.
I've had lots of horse trough goldfish freeze over but I broke the ice and they were fine, although moving slowly.
 
My mom had a goldifsh in a plastic wading pool that froze solid, thawed out and lived. She was pretty amased.
I've had lots of horse trough goldfish freeze over but I broke the ice and they were fine, although moving slowly.
I've had goldfish in my water troughs for years. I put a couple of cinder blocks with the hollow centers in the troughs, gives the fish a place to hide when the raccoons & other critters come to fish. The goldfish will survive most Texas winters well. Have had tanks half ice & the goldfish made it through. They keep the algae down & prevent mosquitoes, the latter being the biggest issue for me.
 
I have several tire troughs from 350 to 900 gallon. I have problems with algae and aquatic weeds. I was going to buy some goldfish to help but have heard it can cause respiratory problems in cattle. Virginia requires a permit for grass carp and i would have to lie and say it was a pond to get those.
What are your thoughts?
My Great Uncle kept goldfish in his large concrete trough (over 500 gallons) here in the Northern Shenandoah Valley of Virginia for decades. Never heard of him having any issues.
 
Based on the amount of slime on the rocks in the river the fish are doing a very poor job. All that we have in the river here are Squawfish (Northern Pike minnows). The biologists tell us they do a great job of eating other fish. I wish they would eat the algae and leave the trout alone.
 
Based on the amount of slime on the rocks in the river the fish are doing a very poor job. All that we have in the river here are Squawfish (Northern Pike minnows). The biologists tell us they do a great job of eating other fish. I wish they would eat the algae and leave the trout alone.
Planted invasive fish are the worst idea ever.
 
Based on the amount of slime on the rocks in the river the fish are doing a very poor job. All that we have in the river here are Squawfish (Northern Pike minnows). The biologists tell us they do a great job of eating other fish. I wish they would eat the algae and leave the trout alone.
Planted invasive fish are the worst idea ever.
Squaw fish are native to the northwest. They do such a good job of feeding on the young salmon that the Fish and Wildlife people have or had a bounty on them in certain areas. $2 a fish. I know people who were making a living catching them in the lower Columbia.
 
Are goldfish the only species that will live in a tank? I have wondered about using a tire tank as sort of a live well for perch or redeye...
All our water tanks were gravity fed from a couple of farm ponds uphill from the pastures. Small bluegill fry occasionally 'made the trip' downhill through 1.25" and 3/4" waterlines to the stock tanks. Had some in a big concrete tank that lived for couple of years until the waterline got broken, and the cows drank all the water out, leaving the bluegills high and dry.
 
While they won't do anything for algae/plant growth, there are native species of Gambusia spp. 'mosquitofish', relatives of the tropical guppies, which will eat mosquito larvae, when stocked into tanks or ponds. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mosquitofish

I stocked a half-dozen triploid Grass Carp into the 3/4 acre farmpond here at the house, in 1995. There *may* be one still alive... I sometimes see big cow-catcher waves zooming across the pond from some big fish swimming just below the surface. As recently as 2019, there was one big grass carp that was struggling with swim bladder issues... I'd see him floating belly up on a regular basis, but if you threw a rock or stick at him, he'd rapidly right himself and zoom away into the depths. Finally found him washed up on the bank, dead. I'll bet he'd have gone 20+ lbs.
Dad had stocked some grass carp into a farm pond, back in AL, in the early 1970s. I hooked a 15+pounder on a flyrod one day. Long, slow fight to get that sucker reeled in.
 
Based on the amount of slime on the rocks in the river the fish are doing a very poor job. All that we have in the river here are Squawfish (Northern Pike minnows). The biologists tell us they do a great job of eating other fish. I wish they would eat the algae and leave the trout alone.

Squaw fish are native to the northwest. They do such a good job of feeding on the young salmon that the Fish and Wildlife people have or had a bounty on them in certain areas. $2 a fish. I know people who were making a living catching them in the lower Columbia.
I googled "northern pike" and it said they weren't native... but now I've googled "squaw fish" and it says they are native. So I'm confused. It doesn't matter a lot. Fisheries across the country have been ruined by cultivated and planted fish, in my opinion. I get the idea, but there are far too many people with power that have conflicting ideas, and once the non-native fish are planted the better ideas are moot. I'd love to see authentic native rainbows somewhere but I doubt they exist in the wild. Maybe Canada? That's too far to go for an enjoyable evening and a few fish for dinner.
 
Based on the amount of slime on the rocks in the river the fish are doing a very poor job. All that we have in the river here are Squawfish (Northern Pike minnows). The biologists tell us they do a great job of eating other fish. I wish they would eat the algae and leave the trout alone.

Squaw fish are native to the northwest. They do such a good job of feeding on the young salmon that the Fish and Wildlife people have or had a bounty on them in certain areas. $2 a fish. I know people who were making a living catching them in the lower Columbia.
The Colorado Game and Fish put northern pike into the Yampa River years ago. A game and fish guy told my grandfather that the pike don't eat trout; my grand father looked at him and said bull**** they eat anything that moves. The Juniper/Cross Mountain dams where stopped because of the Colorado Squawfish and Humpback Chub. It would seen a little hard to protect those fish when you put pike in the river. The Yampa used to be a pretty good place to fish for trout.
 
I have several tire troughs from 350 to 900 gallon. I have problems with algae and aquatic weeds. I was going to buy some goldfish to help but have heard it can cause respiratory problems in cattle. Virginia requires a permit for grass carp and i would have to lie and say it was a pond to get those.
What are your thoughts?
don't know about trade off for algae vs fish waste but we have kept goldfish in troughs for 50 years or more. no respiratory disease here. Cranes occasionally show up and snag them. racoons used to as well but haven's had them around in a while.
 

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