GM 2500 Gas Review

[Brute 23]

Some of us "poor" people still have old trucks with manual transmissions and manual transfer case. 99 F350 with 6 speed manual. Reverse in high range is flying with a trailer in a tight spot unless you are riding/slipping (wearing it out) the clutch. I almost always use low range 2wd to back the trailer.

I fully understand but you quoted me saying "any more" and this whole thread is about a 2024 truck review, not the history of trucks. Go get in a new truck and back up tell me if you still need the ability to do that.

 

[Brute 23]

Don't the new Fords still have the manual auto selectable hubs?

It's not the same. It's just a back up if your auto 4wd does not work. Apparently Ford is not very confident in their 4wd system that it comes with a back up.

I never had an issue with my GM trucks not going in to 4wd. On my 2017 at like 210k miles it didn't go in one time. I tool it to mechanic and en electronic some thing or another went out and it was like $150. I feel like I got my money's worth and it's easy to see why GM has not had locking hubs in the last 30+ years.

 

[Dave]

A working 4 WD can be mandatory to get out the driveway Dec, Jan, and Feb. Certainty not everyday but could be needed any day. I prefer a manual transmission always have. Hear of people needing transmission work it is never a manual. And I don't want a truck which will tell me my ex wife's Mother's maiden name. Less technology and computers is fine by me.
The wife and I were looking at new cars one time. The salesman told us that all their cars had back up cameras. I asked him if they quit putting mirrors on them.

 

[Travlr]

A working 4 WD can be mandatory to get out the driveway Dec, Jan, and Feb. Certainty not everyday but could be needed any day. I prefer a manual transmission always have. Hear of people needing transmission work it is never a manual. And I don't want a truck which will tell me my ex wife's Mother's maiden name. Less technology and computers is fine by me.
The wife and I were looking at new cars one time. The salesman told us that all their cars had back up cameras. I asked him if they quit putting mirrors on them.

I have to say that I like the back-up cameras even though I never thought I would. And I can back up a trailer as good as anybody.

But I do think it should be an option if you don't want to pay for them.

 

[Little Joe]

I have to say that I like the back-up cameras even though I never thought I would. And I can back up a trailer as good as anybody.

But I do think it should be an option if you don't want to pay for them.

I like the back up camera for hooking a bumper pull trailer, there is no wondering if you are over the ball or not. I don't own a vehicle right now that has one but have drove ones that did and hooking trailers was so much easier.

 

[chevytaHOE5674]

My wife's car has a backup camera and it the best thing ever for hooking up a trailer first try everytime.

 

[simme]

Backup cameras are a federal requirement for new vehicles manufactured in the US since May 2018. Not an option anymore. Plenty of pretty cheap kits to add one to an older vehicle. Wireless signal to the monitor. Just need to tap into the backup lights for power and connect the ground to the frame.

 

[CowboyRam]

I have to admit the backup camera is nice when hooking up to a bumper pull trailer, but that is only if the light is not working against you. I like the Ford camera better than GM.

 

[cowman82]

just saw a new '24 dodge 3500 dually with the cummins in it for 57,xxx. msrp of 71k.

thought that was pretty good

 

[Dave]

I like the back up camera for hooking a bumper pull trailer, there is no wondering if you are over the ball or not. I don't own a vehicle right now that has one but have drove ones that did and hooking trailers was so much easier.

I don't own a bumper pull trailer and have absolutely no desire to get one. The pickup I pull the goose neck trailers with has a tool box with lids to each side. That gap between the lids works great for lining up the hitch. I hang the safety chains off a bolt on the front of the trailer. I know how much chain is showing to judge the distance I need to go back.

 

[cfpinz]

When was the last time you did this and what year model was the vehicle?

Within the past month. 2019 Ford F350 with true manual hubs and a floor shifter - 32' dual tandem gooseneck with 20 rolls of hay in a tight hay lot.

Wife recently bought a 2021 Dodge 3500 with the front axle disconnect. One item on my to do list is to install a switch to lock out the front axle disconnect on it so that we can do the same with it. I use 2Lo all the time in campgrounds to back our horse trailer into tight spots.

 

[Brute 23]

Within the past month. 2019 Ford F350 with true manual hubs and a floor shifter - 32' dual tandem gooseneck with 20 rolls of hay in a tight hay lot.

Wife recently bought a 2021 Dodge 3500 with the front axle disconnect. One item on my to do list is to install a switch to lock out the front axle disconnect on it so that we can do the same with it. I use 2Lo all the time in campgrounds to back our horse trailer into tight spots.

Sounds like a preference... not a requirement. Its not some thing the masses will want and they are in the business of selling new vehicles. That's why they have done away with it on all of them.

I saw where they have aftermarket kits for it, though.

 

[cfpinz]

Sounds like a preference... not a requirement. Its not some thing the masses will want and they are in the business of selling new vehicles. That's why they have done away with it on all of them.

I saw where they have aftermarket kits for it, though.

My "preference" is not to stress certain components on the trucks unnecessarily, but by all means have at it if that's what tickles your fancy.

 

[chevytaHOE5674]

I have the ability to use 2wd low range on both of my F250s and can't say that I ever have. High range will push 20k+ backwards without issue so that works for me.