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A few years ago we talked about some embryos I bought, as I was unsure of the Angus pedigree. You told me you liked the Angus genetics in her, and even saw the maternal sire (Twin Valley Precision - her dam is Bear Mtn Pride). The heifer's sire is American Pride. She has good EPD's. I put a second embryo in the same recip that raised her, and she just passed over also.

Well, she was a year old in December (weighed 1085) and I took this tonight. We AI bred her to Lock n Load, and she just passed over her cycle a few days ago. I think she looks pretty good, but if I were to change her it would be to add more width (she has a typical angus butt!).

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She sure looks good in profile, plenty deep and long. Those are older genetics so I can also see the old angus butt. If I was picking a mating for her I would be looking at either Charlo or a Charlo son like Reign I think that would fix the width. I don’t know anything about simmy genetics but seeing your cattle trust whatever you picked will also correct the issue. I like her and it sounds like she is making a cow! Thanks for letting me know! I remember Twin Valley Percision he was a stud, but ended up being a carrier of so we never got to use him. He was a good looking sucker for sure and the cow family was super maternal.

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gizmom":3jyiredm said:
She sure looks good in profile, plenty deep and long. Those are older genetics so I can also see the old angus butt. If I was picking a mating for her I would be looking at either Charlo or a Charlo son like Reign I think that would fix the width. I don’t know anything about simmy genetics but seeing your cattle trust whatever you picked will also correct the issue. I like her and it sounds like she is making a cow! Thanks for letting me know! I remember Twin Valley Percision he was a stud, but ended up being a carrier of so we never got to use him. He was a good looking sucker for sure and the cow family was super maternal.

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Gizmom. Kris could not post that for you without taking a backhand swipe at Angus. Shame on her. (she has a typical angus butt!)

Seriously, I drive past the Boyd Angus pastures almost everyday. I see some bulls in their pasture that has a lot in the trunk! Not all Angus have the pinched butt!
 

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It doesn’t hurt my feelings a bit, all I have to do is remind my simmental friends that most of them have gone simangus. Must be something they like about Angus..... also I don’t think FS was taking a swipe at Angus just stating a fact the older Angus genetics needed more in the britches. I believe we have genetics now that correct the flaw. We are all striving for perfection with every mating, if I ever have one that I thing is perfect then I will quit because I have accomplished the impossible! The boss and I have talked about going to the Boyd sale I will give you a shout if we do maybe we can get together while we’re in the area. We were in the area a few years ago looking at cows, we drove past Boyd but didn’t have time to stop, we have used Boyd New Day a bunch I still plug him in occasionally.

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gizmom":1eeyl69t said:
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It doesn’t hurt my feelings a bit, all I have to do is remind my simmental friends that most of them have gone simangus. Must be something they like about Angus..... also I don’t think FS was taking a swipe at Angus just stating a fact the older Angus genetics needed more in the britches. I believe we have genetics now that correct the flaw. We are all striving for perfection with every mating, if I ever have one that I thing is perfect then I will quit because I have accomplished the impossible! The boss and I have talked about going to the Boyd sale I will give you a shout if we do maybe we can get together while we’re in the area. We were in the area a few years ago looking at cows, we drove past Boyd but didn’t have time to stop, we have used Boyd New Day a bunch I still plug him in occasionally.

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Please do. I am 6 miles from their sale facility. I see Charlie Jr. at Mayslick Mill. In about 2011 when I was still seeking my way to what I was going to use, I looked at Angus bulls with Charlie Sr. He passed away last year. His spouse has a For Sale sign in the yard of their beautiful old home where the Hereford cattle started. The son lives near the sale facility. They have several farms in the area.
 

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The old Angus I was around in the 60's and 70's had plenty of muscle in the rear. The hatchet reared cattle I see are modern genetics. Most have either been bred for CE or carcass and the rear ended has been bred off. Some of the best muscked cattle I see today are old genetics.
 

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I can’t tell much about the black cow in that pic but the red one is just plain GOOD!

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I think your right but then they went to chasing frame and carcass and screwed them up. There are still good ones available, and I think those that focused on just carcass are beginning to realize it was at a cost.

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I really like the lock n load bull in the picture I didn’t like him as much in the video on you tube.

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Yeah I like them, the black one is just a black version of the red one - very similar build. The yearling bull with them is a networth son, he covered nearly 50 cows for 2017.
 

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When I was young and Dad was the cowboy for a grazing association there was a registered Angus breeder who ran cows on the grasslands and used a pasture that was around our house. He had a hundred head that was a lot like the red cow. They were deep, soggy and broad.
 
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