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Looking at buying a black 3 quarter gelbvieh 1 quarter angus. Never had any experience with gelbvieh cattle before. Anyone out there run gelbvieh bulls?
I don't know where you got yours from, but temperament is a rare complaint.. All of my GV animals are better tempered than the ShorthornsStocker Steve":hc68ehqb said:Used to. Limited data was good muscling but marginal dispositions. Biggest local seed stock producer went from GV X to Simi X to get better marbling.
An outfit in SD has feed efficiency tested GV bulls available. Have heard good things about them.
Nesikep":3vl8kd2l said:Stocker Steve":3vl8kd2l said:Used to. Limited data was good muscling but marginal dispositions. Biggest local seed stock producer went from GV X to Simi X to get better marbling.
An outfit in SD has feed efficiency tested GV bulls available. Have heard good things about them.
I haven't had any heifers cycle before 180 days, and I usually have the replacement candidates separated from the bulls by that time on their own pasture
Stocker Steve":1f1xytxt said:Used to. Limited data was good muscling but marginal dispositions. Biggest local seed stock producer went from GV X to Simi X to get better marbling.
An outfit in SD has feed efficiency tested GV bulls available. Have heard good things about them.
Supa Dexta":we0o0e27 said:Also had my share of teen pregnancies and nutty attitudes when I had them.. Likely won't get another. My problems were with the golden red purebred cows, the bulls seemed fine. No experience with new and improved black ones ,
Aaron":34ucqs6s said:Ran 1/2 Gelbvieh bull 10 years ago as terminal cross. They are very maternal and growthy. Biggest issue many come across is that they are very early maturing, lots of heifer calves can cycle and breed at 4 months of age. Don't know of a Gelbvieh user who hasn't had issues with pre-teen pregnancies. Have known a few that have quit or cut back using them because of that issue.
3waycross":3chf18ae said:Aaron":3chf18ae said:Ran 1/2 Gelbvieh bull 10 years ago as terminal cross. They are very maternal and growthy. Biggest issue many come across is that they are very early maturing, lots of heifer calves can cycle and breed at 4 months of age. Don't know of a Gelbvieh user who hasn't had issues with pre-teen pregnancies. Have known a few that have quit or cut back using them because of that issue.
30 seconds and a $2 shot at weaning is a small price to pay for the increased fertility in the GV crossbred heifers. AS WITH ALL BREEDS there are individuals in the GV breed that will have disposition issues. I run my cows with an Angus breeder who runs approx. 150 Registered and commercial cows and a few Limo crosses. We work those calves at least 4 to 5 time between birth and one year and I can tell you for a fact that my Cows and their calves ALL have better exit speeds than that Angus cowherd. I cull relentlessly for disposition and it shows. I have had a couple of yearling bulls fall out for disposition and with one exception they go to work for McDonalds asap. The exception went to Wyoming where he will probably only see one more human in his whole life...the one who hauls him to the processor in 5 years.
BTW Aaron one of the best if not the best crosses for GV's is a Hereford...and being the nice guy I am I won't mention all of the things that they fix on a Hereford.LOLOL ;-)