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<blockquote data-quote="farmerjan" data-source="post: 1402832" data-attributes="member: 25884"><p>When I was doing relief breeding in the 80's for select sires, there were alot of angus breeders with cattle so tall I practically needed a step stool to reach them! They did look like black Chi's and had the dispositions to go along with it. They ate like hogs and still had trouble keeping weight on. The holstein breed did the same, and they are now coming back to a more moderate size. Bigger was equated to eating more, making more milk, having bigger calves....more money????? So you say what is moderate, but that is subjective. Most would agree that it is in the 4-7 with 5-6 being about average. Personally I like a cow in the 1100 +/- lb size. They seem to do best on our pastures, have a calf in the 70-90 lb range. No calving problems, make plenty of milk on decent pasture, and breed back. And we have no problem selling the calves in the 450-550 lb size. But that is us. Have a neighbor that regularly has cows in the 1500 plus size. He also has alot more feet and leg problems than we do. </p><p>The last 6 cows that we shipped 3 weeks ago, were 990 to 1180 lbs. 4 blks - angus x, 2 red wf crossbreds. They all were older than dirt, 4 had no teeth, 1 had nubs and 1 was short mouth but she was high headed. They were all open, we had sold calves off them about a month before. If they had been bred they would still be here, but I suspected this group would have some opens since there were alot of OLD cows there. All but one were in very decent shape for their age and the time of year.</p><p> We just bought 10 breds at a sale and 2 were 1500+ lbs. We'll see how they do. The rest were a bit smaller, in the 1150-1300 lb size.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="farmerjan, post: 1402832, member: 25884"] When I was doing relief breeding in the 80's for select sires, there were alot of angus breeders with cattle so tall I practically needed a step stool to reach them! They did look like black Chi's and had the dispositions to go along with it. They ate like hogs and still had trouble keeping weight on. The holstein breed did the same, and they are now coming back to a more moderate size. Bigger was equated to eating more, making more milk, having bigger calves....more money????? So you say what is moderate, but that is subjective. Most would agree that it is in the 4-7 with 5-6 being about average. Personally I like a cow in the 1100 +/- lb size. They seem to do best on our pastures, have a calf in the 70-90 lb range. No calving problems, make plenty of milk on decent pasture, and breed back. And we have no problem selling the calves in the 450-550 lb size. But that is us. Have a neighbor that regularly has cows in the 1500 plus size. He also has alot more feet and leg problems than we do. The last 6 cows that we shipped 3 weeks ago, were 990 to 1180 lbs. 4 blks - angus x, 2 red wf crossbreds. They all were older than dirt, 4 had no teeth, 1 had nubs and 1 was short mouth but she was high headed. They were all open, we had sold calves off them about a month before. If they had been bred they would still be here, but I suspected this group would have some opens since there were alot of OLD cows there. All but one were in very decent shape for their age and the time of year. We just bought 10 breds at a sale and 2 were 1500+ lbs. We'll see how they do. The rest were a bit smaller, in the 1150-1300 lb size. [/QUOTE]
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