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<blockquote data-quote="Herefords.US" data-source="post: 704677" data-attributes="member: 3972"><p>I agree with Brandon. I think you're trying to do too much! I've said it to you before - but again I'd pick a couple of good bulls and stick to using a couple a year, trying to build uniformity in your replacement females.</p><p></p><p>The only bull in your list that I've had a lot of experience with is Pure Gold (98170). Pure Gold does a lot of things right. He will sire a set of uniform, moderate framed calves out of cows of varying bloodlines and type. He will add thickness of muscling with a showring competitive phenotype - as much or more than any contemporary bull out there. His daughters will be good milkers ...BUT be prepared for them to not have the prettiest udders with small teats that are ideal. Some teats will eventually become bottle-like. I culled my first Pure Gold daughter at the age of 7 this year primarily for large teats and have 3-4 more of the same age that I'm watching. Pure Gold also won't do anything positive for your BW and calving ease EPDs - if that is an issue for you. Likewise for IMF%. And some of his progeny appear to be a little pencil gutted, particularly if they are out of cows that lack capacity. Overall, I really like the bull and his progeny, but he's not the "greatest breeding bull since Prince Domino" that I proclaimed him to be when I first saw him and his calves in 2002. He is a good tool in a well thought out breeding program.</p><p></p><p>I do have a single 19D daughter. She's a beautiful cow, maybe the prettiest cow on the place - very easy keeping with a beautiful udder - but she comes in as below average in my herd when it comes to her calves. They always start out looking good, but virtually every first calf heifer I've put into the herd will eventually outperform her in raising a calf. She's a 2002 model and the only reason that she's stayed this long is because she does have a calf every year, I've had plenty of pasture, and she's been a curiosity for me. She's going to be sold next spring when her September heifer calf gets old enough to wean. I'm betting that her heifer calf will be on that same load going to auction. But one cow isn't a great indicator of what 19D might do.</p><p></p><p>George</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Herefords.US, post: 704677, member: 3972"] I agree with Brandon. I think you're trying to do too much! I've said it to you before - but again I'd pick a couple of good bulls and stick to using a couple a year, trying to build uniformity in your replacement females. The only bull in your list that I've had a lot of experience with is Pure Gold (98170). Pure Gold does a lot of things right. He will sire a set of uniform, moderate framed calves out of cows of varying bloodlines and type. He will add thickness of muscling with a showring competitive phenotype - as much or more than any contemporary bull out there. His daughters will be good milkers ...BUT be prepared for them to not have the prettiest udders with small teats that are ideal. Some teats will eventually become bottle-like. I culled my first Pure Gold daughter at the age of 7 this year primarily for large teats and have 3-4 more of the same age that I'm watching. Pure Gold also won't do anything positive for your BW and calving ease EPDs - if that is an issue for you. Likewise for IMF%. And some of his progeny appear to be a little pencil gutted, particularly if they are out of cows that lack capacity. Overall, I really like the bull and his progeny, but he's not the "greatest breeding bull since Prince Domino" that I proclaimed him to be when I first saw him and his calves in 2002. He is a good tool in a well thought out breeding program. I do have a single 19D daughter. She's a beautiful cow, maybe the prettiest cow on the place - very easy keeping with a beautiful udder - but she comes in as below average in my herd when it comes to her calves. They always start out looking good, but virtually every first calf heifer I've put into the herd will eventually outperform her in raising a calf. She's a 2002 model and the only reason that she's stayed this long is because she does have a calf every year, I've had plenty of pasture, and she's been a curiosity for me. She's going to be sold next spring when her September heifer calf gets old enough to wean. I'm betting that her heifer calf will be on that same load going to auction. But one cow isn't a great indicator of what 19D might do. George [/QUOTE]
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