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In your stocker programs
What kind of gain are you getting, cost of gain, and input cost
What kind of gain are you getting, cost of gain, and input cost
Stocker Steve":lobvvuuw said:Gain varies a lot - - perhaps from 0.5 to 3.5 lbs per day. With average 6 wt steers, good mineral, and good pasture you should see 1.5 to 1.8 lbs/day. Best gain is usually supplemented continental cross steers.
Cost of gain varies a lot. Are you looking at back grounding or grazing, steers or heifers, owned land or leased land ??? Loest cost of gain is usually leased pasture.
Stocker Steve":1uydc5mw said:Don't know what kind of quality we are talking about, but a COG from 30 to 40 cents per pound is possible. :2cents:
Bigfoot":2fuv107c said:I was going to go through my backgrounding numbers tonight. I can definativly tell that I have been seeing gains of 60 pounds per month. I need to dig some receipts out to tell you what that gain has been costing me. Feed is at $215 a ton. Those two numbers I know for sure.
BF if your feeding 16lbs of grain pr hd pr day at $215pr ton you are putting $1.72 in each calf would be hard to come out with that kind of inputBigfoot":232pe7eu said:Comes out to 16 pounds a day. That's 8 pounds in the morning and 8 pounds in the afternoon. That number might be artificially inflated a little. I get feed out of my bulk bin as needed around on the farm as needed. Calling the cows up, maybe putting a cow up here and there etc.
1. Meds are just at $16 a head. That's two rounds.
2. Mineral idk. I keep it out, seems like I'm buying a pallet everytime I turn around. I feed same mineral to every beef animal on the place.
3. I don't do a land charge. I have 45 acres of my acreage kinda permanantly devoted to backgrounding. What ever that is worth. Nothing to me fwiw
4. 1.5 rolls on my winter bunch, and surprisingly .5 rolls on my summer bunch. They are my rolls, but I call them worth $45 a piece.
I usually try to take a 400 pound calf to 775. Sometimes I take a 550 pound calf to 775. I look for frame when I'm buying-------Black sims, and charlois and charlois crosses are prefered
not trying to be a smart a$$ I guess was just wondering if I read your statement correctBigfoot":28wx17fg said:Yea. I'm digging in my shoe box as we speak. Looks like I had a bad year. I'll have something concrete by bed time. Looks like Uncle Sam is going to end up oweing me.
Angus Cowman":an4chj9z said:not trying to be a smart a$$ I guess was just wondering if I read your statement correctBigfoot":an4chj9z said:Yea. I'm digging in my shoe box as we speak. Looks like I had a bad year. I'll have something concrete by bed time. Looks like Uncle Sam is going to end up oweing me.
If you can make it work for you that is great but I can't seem to make those numbers work unless I was getting 3+lbs on ADG
Stocker Steve":2osk29y5 said:There is a big difference between forage based stockering and feed based back grounding. Many operations (including mine) mix the two. When Harlan runs back grounding budgets for Beef mag the numbers are sobering. If you run separate budgets you may find that you "lose money" on the back grounding but "make money" on the stockering. Another way to look at this would be to run fewer head with less purchased feed and try to get compensatory gain on pasture.