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How many plan to see this movie.
I will be at the first showing had an uncle made the beach landing on Iwo Jima and Okinawa that was awarded the Navy Cross.
He died in 2002 and left me pictures he took on Iwo Jima and Okinawa(sp) they are unbelievable what those men did to insure our freedoms.
 
Caustic Burno":3uina4ce said:
How many plan to see this movie.
I will be at the first showing had an uncle made the beach landing on Iwo Jima and Okinawa that was awarded the Navy Cross.
He died in 2002 and left me pictures he took on Iwo Jima and Okinawa(sp) they are unbelievable what those men did to insure our freedoms.

I have seen some picture myself of that war. Seen them not make it back from that war intact too. Just don't hear as much about it as the later wars.

Thanks to all that had to and were willing to serve for the country I live in as a free man.

I plan to see it too.
 
I hope I can see the movie, there aint a movie theater anywhere around here so i'm not sure whether i'll be able to or not...my father was killed at the Battle of the Bulge...my father was awarded the Distinguished Service Cross which I still have today, and I am very proud to have it as a memory of him...I also have his Purple Heart, POW medal, and WWII Victory medal...I am very proud of what my father did for my family and the rest of this country, I cannot give enough thanks to all the soldiers who fought during WWII and I hope the movie gives them all the glory they deserve

God bless them
 
I plan to see it soon after it comes out here. Dad was a Seabee in the Pacific during WWII. Saw some combat, but not at Iwo. His older brother landed at Omaha Beach on DDay and was killed a couple of miles inland a few days later. Dad was buried with my uncle's Purple Heart. I will never forget what those men did for us and the rest of the world, as well as those before and after them.

PS- I have the book by John McCain. It is an excellent read.
 
I'll see it. Probably just buy the CD when it gets released. I don't get to the theatre much.
 
It wont be be out here until next year. My Grandfather won the Victoria Cross for bravary in WW1, while injured himself, he carried his Captain over his shoulder to the Millitary Hospital. His Captain lost his Leg and my Grandfather his hearing. the Captain was 5ft 10in and my Grandfather was only 5ft, what an effort it must have been. I am very proud of him for that and a lot of other things to.

God Bless all the Military Men/Women no matter where they are.
 
This article was sent to me awhile back. I don't know who the author is, but thought you might like to read it.

Jack

A Tale of Six Boys



Each year I am hired to go to Washington, DC, with the eighth grade class from Clinton, WI, where I grew up, to videotape their trip. I greatly enjoy visiting our nation's capitol, and each year I take some special memories back with me. This fall's trip was especially memorable.

On the last night of our trip, we stopped at the Iwo Jima memorial. This memorial is the largest bronze statue in the world and depicts one of the most famous photographs in history -- that of the six brave soldiers raising the American Flag at the top of a rocky hill on the island of Iwo Jima, Japan, during WW II.

Over one hundred students and chaperones piled off the buses and headed towards the memorial. I noticed a solitary figure at the base of the statue, and as I got closer he asked, "Where are you guys from?"

I told him that we were from Wisconsin.

"Hey, I'm a cheese head, too! Come gather around, Cheese heads, and I will tell you a story."

(James Bradley just happened to be in Washington, DC, to speak at the memorial the following day. He was there that night to say good night to his dad, who has since passed away. He was just about to leave when he saw the buses pull up. I videotaped him as he spoke to us, and received his permission to share what he said from my videotape. It is one thing to tour the incredible monuments filled with history in Washington, D.C., but it is quite another to get the kind of insight we received that night.)

When all had gathered around, he reverently began to speak. (Here are his words that night.)

"My name is James Bradley and I'm from Antigo, Wisconsin. My dad is on that statue, and I just wrote a book called "Flags of Our Fathers" which is #5 on the New York Times Best Seller list right now. It is the story of the six boys you see behind me.

"Six boys raised the flag. The first guy putting the pole in the ground is Harlon Block. Harlon was an all-state football player. He enlisted in the Marine Corps with all the senior members of his football team. They were off to play another type of game. A game called "War." But it didn't turn out to be a game.

Harlon, at the age of 21, died with his intestines in his hands. I don't say that to gross you out, I say that because there are generals who stand in front of this statue and talk about the glory of war. You guys need to know that most of the boys in Iwo Jima were 17, 18, and 19 years old.

(He pointed to the statue) "You see this next guy? That's Rene Gagnon from New Hampshire. If you took Rene's helmet off at the moment this photo was taken and looked in the webbing of that helmet, you would find a photograph... a photograph of his girlfriend. Rene put that in there for protection because he was scared. He was 18 years old. Boys won the battle of Iwo Jima. Boys. Not old men.

"The next guy here, the third guy in this tableau, was Sergeant Mike Strank. Mike is my hero. He was the hero of all these guys. They called him the "old man" because he was so old. He was already 24. When Mike would motivate his boys in training camp, he didn't say, 'Let's go kill some Japanese' or 'Let's die for our country.' He knew he was talking to little boys. Instead he would say, 'You do what I say, and I'll get you home to your mothers.'

"The last guy on this side of the statue is Ira Hayes, a Pima Indian from Arizona. Ira Hayes walked off Iwo Jima. He went into the White House with my dad. President Truman told him, 'You're a hero.' He told reporters, 'How can I feel like a hero when 250 of my buddies hit the island with me and only 27 of us walked off alive?' So you take your class at school, 250 of you spending a year together having fun, doing everything together. Then all 250 of you hit the beach, but only 27 of your classmates walk off alive. That was Ira Hayes. He had images of horror in his mind. Ira Hayes died dead drunk, face down at the age of 32 .. ten years after this picture was taken.

"The next guy, going around the statue, is Franklin Sousley from Hilltop, Kentucky. A fun-lovin'hillbilly boy. His best friend, who is now 70, told me, 'Yeah, you know, we took two cows up on the porch of the Hilltop General Store. Then we strung wire across the stairs so the cows couldn't get down. Then we fed them Epsom salts. Yes, he was a fun-lovin'hillbilly boy. Franklin died on Iwo Jima at the age of 19. When the telegram came to tell his mother that he was dead, it went to the Hilltop General Store. A barefoot boy ran that telegram up to his mother's farm. The neighbors could hear her scream all night and into the morning. The neighbors lived a quarter of a mile away.

"The next guy, as we continue to go around the statue, is my dad, John Bradley from Antigo, Wisconsin, where I was raised. My dad lived until 1994, but he would never give interviews. When Walter Cronkite's producers, or the New York Times would call, we were trained as little kids to say, 'No, I'm sorry, sir, my dad's not here. He is in Canada fishing. No, there is no phone there, sir. No, we don't know when he is coming back.' My dad never fished or even went to Canada. Usually, he was sitting there right at the table eating his Campbell's soup. But we had to tell the press that he was out fishing. He didn't want to talk to the press.

"You see, my dad didn't see himself as a hero. Everyone thinks these guys are heroes, 'cause they are in a photo and on a monument. My dad knew better. He was a medic. John Bradley from Wisconsin was a caregiver. In Iwo Jima he probably held over 200 boys as they died. And when boys died in Iwo Jima, they writhed and screamed in pain.

"When I was a little boy, my third grade teacher told me that my dad was a hero. When I went home and told my dad that, he looked at me and said, 'I want you always to remember that the heroes of Iwo Jima are the guys who did not come back. Did NOT come back.'

"So that's the story about six nice young boys. Three died on Iwo Jima, and three came back as national heroes. Overall, 7,000 boys died on Iwo Jima in the worst battle in the history of the Marine Corps. My voice is giving out, so I will end here. Thank you for your time."

Suddenly, the monument wasn't just a big old piece of metal with a flag sticking out of the top. It came to life before our eyes with the heartfelt words of a son who did indeed have a father who was a hero Maybe not a hero for the reasons most people would believe, but a hero nonetheless.

Let us never forget from the Revolutionary War to the current War on Terrorism and all the wars in-between that sacrifice was made for our ! freedom. Remember to pray praises for this great country of ours and also pray for those still in murderous unrest around the world.

STOP and thank God for being alive and being free at someone else's sacrifice.

REMINDER: Everyday that you can wake up free, it's going to be a great day.
 
I will go see it as soon as I can. Two men who had a great influence on me growing up were at Iwo. One of my first bosses was one of two members of his platoon to walk off Iwo. Actually he didn't walk off but left on a stretcher. 25 years later he still had a noticable limp. The other gentleman was like a second father to me. He was in the Navy and ran landing craft to and from the beach.
 
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Every chance you get thank a WW II Vet as we are losing that generation at 1500 a day. No Generation has sacraficed so much for this country. They took us from horse and buggy to the moon.
 
I doubt I'll see it. I watch very few movies so that won't be the first one I've missed.
I think it was Sherman that said "War is he77!"
My dad got a senior trip to the Battle of the Bulge. He's never talked much about it--I swear I'll get the story soon. I do know it was cold. When I'd b* about feeding in cold weather he'd say "Wiggle your toes, they won't freeze".
My great uncle died in the days at the end of WWI where the kings had already agreed to end the fight but to have another 10 days to try and change the lines. My grandad remembers his oldest brother walking barefoot out of a holler in Ky to be sworn into the army and that was the last time he saw him.
All the veterans of all of our wars have my respect and my support. And a special 'thank you' to those on watch today.
 
My grandfather was a messenger in the 4th division and was wounded at Iwo. We are planning to on taking him to see the movie. We have both read the book. It is one of the best books that I have read in a long time.
 
jack.diamond":2mbqg1c0 said:
This article was sent to me awhile back. I don't know who the author is, but thought you might like to read it.

Jack

A Tale of Six Boys



Each year I am hired to go to Washington, DC, with the eighth grade class from Clinton, WI, where I grew up, to videotape their trip. I greatly enjoy visiting our nation's capitol, and each year I take some special memories back with me. This fall's trip was especially memorable.

On the last night of our trip, we stopped at the Iwo Jima memorial. This memorial is the largest bronze statue in the world and depicts one of the most famous photographs in history -- that of the six brave soldiers raising the American Flag at the top of a rocky hill on the island of Iwo Jima, Japan, during WW II.

Over one hundred students and chaperones piled off the buses and headed towards the memorial. I noticed a solitary figure at the base of the statue, and as I got closer he asked, "Where are you guys from?"

I told him that we were from Wisconsin.

"Hey, I'm a cheese head, too! Come gather around, Cheese heads, and I will tell you a story."

(James Bradley just happened to be in Washington, DC, to speak at the memorial the following day. He was there that night to say good night to his dad, who has since passed away. He was just about to leave when he saw the buses pull up. I videotaped him as he spoke to us, and received his permission to share what he said from my videotape. It is one thing to tour the incredible monuments filled with history in Washington, D.C., but it is quite another to get the kind of insight we received that night.)

When all had gathered around, he reverently began to speak. (Here are his words that night.)

"My name is James Bradley and I'm from Antigo, Wisconsin. My dad is on that statue, and I just wrote a book called "Flags of Our Fathers" which is #5 on the New York Times Best Seller list right now. It is the story of the six boys you see behind me.

"Six boys raised the flag. The first guy putting the pole in the ground is Harlon Block. Harlon was an all-state football player. He enlisted in the Marine Corps with all the senior members of his football team. They were off to play another type of game. A game called "War." But it didn't turn out to be a game.

Harlon, at the age of 21, died with his intestines in his hands. I don't say that to gross you out, I say that because there are generals who stand in front of this statue and talk about the glory of war. You guys need to know that most of the boys in Iwo Jima were 17, 18, and 19 years old.

(He pointed to the statue) "You see this next guy? That's Rene Gagnon from New Hampshire. If you took Rene's helmet off at the moment this photo was taken and looked in the webbing of that helmet, you would find a photograph... a photograph of his girlfriend. Rene put that in there for protection because he was scared. He was 18 years old. Boys won the battle of Iwo Jima. Boys. Not old men.

"The next guy here, the third guy in this tableau, was Sergeant Mike Strank. Mike is my hero. He was the hero of all these guys. They called him the "old man" because he was so old. He was already 24. When Mike would motivate his boys in training camp, he didn't say, 'Let's go kill some Japanese' or 'Let's die for our country.' He knew he was talking to little boys. Instead he would say, 'You do what I say, and I'll get you home to your mothers.'

"The last guy on this side of the statue is Ira Hayes, a Pima Indian from Arizona. Ira Hayes walked off Iwo Jima. He went into the White House with my dad. President Truman told him, 'You're a hero.' He told reporters, 'How can I feel like a hero when 250 of my buddies hit the island with me and only 27 of us walked off alive?' So you take your class at school, 250 of you spending a year together having fun, doing everything together. Then all 250 of you hit the beach, but only 27 of your classmates walk off alive. That was Ira Hayes. He had images of horror in his mind. Ira Hayes died dead drunk, face down at the age of 32 .. ten years after this picture was taken.

"The next guy, going around the statue, is Franklin Sousley from Hilltop, Kentucky. A fun-lovin'hillbilly boy. His best friend, who is now 70, told me, 'Yeah, you know, we took two cows up on the porch of the Hilltop General Store. Then we strung wire across the stairs so the cows couldn't get down. Then we fed them Epsom salts. Yes, he was a fun-lovin'hillbilly boy. Franklin died on Iwo Jima at the age of 19. When the telegram came to tell his mother that he was dead, it went to the Hilltop General Store. A barefoot boy ran that telegram up to his mother's farm. The neighbors could hear her scream all night and into the morning. The neighbors lived a quarter of a mile away.

"The next guy, as we continue to go around the statue, is my dad, John Bradley from Antigo, Wisconsin, where I was raised. My dad lived until 1994, but he would never give interviews. When Walter Cronkite's producers, or the New York Times would call, we were trained as little kids to say, 'No, I'm sorry, sir, my dad's not here. He is in Canada fishing. No, there is no phone there, sir. No, we don't know when he is coming back.' My dad never fished or even went to Canada. Usually, he was sitting there right at the table eating his Campbell's soup. But we had to tell the press that he was out fishing. He didn't want to talk to the press.

"You see, my dad didn't see himself as a hero. Everyone thinks these guys are heroes, 'cause they are in a photo and on a monument. My dad knew better. He was a medic. John Bradley from Wisconsin was a caregiver. In Iwo Jima he probably held over 200 boys as they died. And when boys died in Iwo Jima, they writhed and screamed in pain.

"When I was a little boy, my third grade teacher told me that my dad was a hero. When I went home and told my dad that, he looked at me and said, 'I want you always to remember that the heroes of Iwo Jima are the guys who did not come back. Did NOT come back.'

"So that's the story about six nice young boys. Three died on Iwo Jima, and three came back as national heroes. Overall, 7,000 boys died on Iwo Jima in the worst battle in the history of the Marine Corps. My voice is giving out, so I will end here. Thank you for your time."

Suddenly, the monument wasn't just a big old piece of metal with a flag sticking out of the top. It came to life before our eyes with the heartfelt words of a son who did indeed have a father who was a hero Maybe not a hero for the reasons most people would believe, but a hero nonetheless.

Let us never forget from the Revolutionary War to the current War on Terrorism and all the wars in-between that sacrifice was made for our ! freedom. Remember to pray praises for this great country of ours and also pray for those still in murderous unrest around the world.

STOP and thank God for being alive and being free at someone else's sacrifice.

REMINDER: Everyday that you can wake up free, it's going to be a great day.
I rarely go to movies but after reading this, I'm going to see it.
 
I'm so cynical anymore :( I just had to check to see if this was true and :) :) :) it is!

http://www.snopes.com/military/sixboys.asp

The Boys of Iwo Jima
Claim: Article describes talk given to a group of Wisconsin schoolchildren at the Iwo Jima memorial.
Status: True.
Origins: The above-quoted article was written in October 2000 by Wisconsin resident Michael T. Powers (whose name has been omitted from most of the Internet-circulated versions), transcribed from a videotape he made of a talk given by author James Bradley at the Marine Corps War Memorial in Arlington, Virginia. Bradley, whose father, John, was one of the six men pictured in the famous photograph of the flag-raising on Mt. Suribachi in February 1945 (and is thus depicted in the monument's sculpture), had earlier that year published Flags of Our Fathers, an account of the life stories of those six men.
 
Good movie as I went to see it today. I haven't been to a movie in years but I had to see this one. The men in my life that were my guidance as a child seved at Pearl on Dec 7, and made the beach landings in the Pacific. Brought back a lot of memories of the kind of metal that generation of men and women were made of.
 
Caustic Burno":1cyn5ens said:
Good movie as I went to see it today. I haven't been to a movie in years but I had to see this one. The men in my life that were my guidance as a child seved at Pearl on Dec 7, and made the beach landings in the Pacific. Brought back a lot of memories of the kind of metal that generation of men and women were made of.

Glad to hear it was good, we are thinking about leaving in a few minutes to go see it at the 7:00 show. Wife is not much of a war movie person, but hopefully it has a good story line so she will not be mad for me picking it.
 
Caustic Burno":te8addk7 said:
Good movie as I went to see it today. I haven't been to a movie in years but I had to see this one. The men in my life that were my guidance as a child seved at Pearl on Dec 7, and made the beach landings in the Pacific. Brought back a lot of memories of the kind of metal that generation of men and women were made of.

Grandpa left me some stuff when he passed on too. He was part of a B-17 bomber crew that flew from the same field as the Memphis Belle. I've got a Certificate of Appreciation from the President himself. Even though it was signed by William Clinton, still means quite a lot. Got a picture of him and the boys standing next to their plane with the ball turret and a chunk of the side completely blown out by German flack. They were bombing a railroad that was supplying Nazi forces. The old girl obviously brought them home. Needless to say it's one of my favorite airplanes along with the P-51 Mustang. The old feller wouldn't talk about his ordeal often, but I got a few sacred tidbits out of him. The molds that made those men are broken and gone. I salute them with all I'm worth.
 
Caustic Burno":v56gycsb said:
Good movie as I went to see it today. I haven't been to a movie in years but I had to see this one. The men in my life that were my guidance as a child seved at Pearl on Dec 7, and made the beach landings in the Pacific. Brought back a lot of memories of the kind of metal that generation of men and women were made of.

Good enough for you, good enough for me.

May God Bless, all our sons and daughters, serving today.

Semper Fi.
 

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