What kind of numbers do you think possible on high energy summer mixes?
What would be an ideal mix in your opinion? I have really liked your logic to most things since I joined this board.
If hay is cheap. Yes. I don't see it being cheap anymore. Unless cattle prices stay high, which I very much doubt.
A problem with annual mix profit is covering the OH and land costs. So most people use them in the fall after harvesting a grain crop that has already paid the OH for that year. A few people try to spread OH cost by growing multiple forage crops per year. Both of these approaches are difficult in the north.
If you are going hard on fertility improvement of TILLABLE land my sequence is:
1) Bale grazing during frozen season, then take one grazing on surviving plants in May
2) Burn it down, spread residue clumps, and seed a SS, RC, Italian rye grass mix. Byron Seeds has some very good information. Welter Seed has lower prices. Consider 40 units of N.
3) Graze or wrap first crop, graze second crop. Could get a more crops in the mid-south. Consider lime and more N.
4) Grow a RR crop to prep seedbed. Soybeans are my favorite.
5) Establish a grass/legume mix. Consider what class of livestock needs this forage quality level?
This will give you much better results than a composite soil sample and a chemical fertilizer salesman.