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It's raining and I'll have to take some but you can bet I will as soon as I get a chance.
ddd75":1ihom2li said:i have 3 strands.. mostly loose HT.. 40-60' post spacing .. for perimeter I use a single polywire for gates..
usually have some cows wondering around wherever.. most of the time the others will tell on them though.
i think i win this contest.
M-5":1sc3t7af said:There is not a person on this board that has not brought an old fence up to snuff with cutting away growth and putting in patches. everybody talks a big game but reality is what it is.
Dave":3njoa5de said:I am not allowed to fence the back of my place. Read that again Not Allowed To Build Fence. It is a shared allotment with BLM. If I were to fence it I would lose my right to run the cows on about 10,000 acres of BLM. So I can go to the expense, time, and effort to build fence on 1,200 acres of steep rocky ground. Or do nothing and run cows on 10,000+ acres. It is a tough decision. It is a shared allotment so the neighbors cows are on the back of my place at times but when he gathers in the fall he will bring my cows out too.
I think I might win.
south0085":12wwjgw7 said:I have about 6 acres that I need to put some cows on. I just have a small hobby farm in Kentucky. Most of the lot has barb wire. Not the best in some places. But it other places, pretty good. No hot wires anywhere on it. I plan to fix the bad spots and leave the rest. In a perfect world, I would add one or two electric wires.
The problem is: it's ALL grown up with weeds, briars, trees, etc. Really badly.
I don't have the money to hire someone to come and clean it out for me. I don't really have the time to do it myself. I work another job full-time. What are my options?
Is the "pretty-good" fence that's already there, PLUS the brush that's grown up in it....enough to keep the cows contained? It's grown up really bad. A cow would have to run with all it's might to get past all of the brush. haha. I'm just new to this and didn't know if I still needed to redo the fence, or what. Any advice is appreciated. Thank you.
Are you saying that 'your' place (or part of it) is shared?Dave":fhv38smv said:I am not allowed to fence the back of my place. Read that again Not Allowed To Build Fence. It is a shared allotment with BLM. If I were to fence it I would lose my right to run the cows on about 10,000 acres of BLM. So I can go to the expense, time, and effort to build fence on 1,200 acres of steep rocky ground. Or do nothing and run cows on 10,000+ acres. It is a tough decision. It is a shared allotment so the neighbors cows are on the back of my place at times but when he gathers in the fall he will bring my cows out too.
I think I might win.
greybeard":3g9ahra6 said:Are you saying that 'your' place (or part of it) is shared?Dave":3g9ahra6 said:I am not allowed to fence the back of my place. Read that again Not Allowed To Build Fence. It is a shared allotment with BLM. If I were to fence it I would lose my right to run the cows on about 10,000 acres of BLM. So I can go to the expense, time, and effort to build fence on 1,200 acres of steep rocky ground. Or do nothing and run cows on 10,000+ acres. It is a tough decision. It is a shared allotment so the neighbors cows are on the back of my place at times but when he gathers in the fall he will bring my cows out too.
I think I might win.
Admittedly, I have no idea how BLM property allotments are set up, but I do remember this county when it was still open range. You could fence your property off from the govt land but still run cattle and hogs on that govt land (along with everyone else's). I don't remember what the annual fee for running stock on the govt land (Nat Forest) was but it was almost nothing, as that's also what the quantity and quality forage in there was....almost nothing.
callmefence":28pnwudy said:M-5":28pnwudy said:There is not a person on this board that has not brought an old fence up to snuff with cutting away growth and putting in patches. everybody talks a big game but reality is what it is.
Just cause your a half azz don't make it right. But you have a point. Look at all the dumbazzs pouring out expensive minerals just because they read it here.
I don't worry too much about it. Seems there is alot of "special needs" in tx .jehosofat":25yzadd3 said:callmefence":25yzadd3 said:M-5":25yzadd3 said:There is not a person on this board that has not brought an old fence up to snuff with cutting away growth and putting in patches. everybody talks a big game but reality is what it is.
Just cause your a half azz don't make it right. But you have a point. Look at all the dumbazzs pouring out expensive minerals just because they read it here.
I ain't in the fence bidness (even though I build a pretty good fence), I'm in the boat business. I own and drive a boat that is in the top 1% of fastest boats on the planet, but when a man walks in my shop with a 35 horse ol' Mercury, on a 16 foot jon boat, that he loves . . . . . . .I don't tell him what a piece of sheit he is.
jehosofat":11qvivug said:callmefence":11qvivug said:M-5":11qvivug said:There is not a person on this board that has not brought an old fence up to snuff with cutting away growth and putting in patches. everybody talks a big game but reality is what it is.
Just cause your a half azz don't make it right. But you have a point. Look at all the dumbazzs pouring out expensive minerals just because they read it here.
I ain't in the fence bidness (even though I build a pretty good fence), I'm in the boat business. I own and drive a boat that is in the top 1% of fastest boats on the planet, but when a man walks in my shop with a 35 horse ol' Mercury, on a 16 foot jon boat, that he loves . . . . . . .I don't tell him what a piece of sheit he is.
ddd75":u1tcs1gh said:i thought with BLM land you got exclusive access if you had the rights. from what i read, most hold rights forever until they give them up. when the ranch is sold, the BLM lease land is included in the sale, with value.
callmefence":2nxj7wx3 said:jehosofat":2nxj7wx3 said:callmefence":2nxj7wx3 said:Just cause your a half azz don't make it right. But you have a point. Look at all the dumbazzs pouring out expensive minerals just because they read it here.
I ain't in the fence bidness (even though I build a pretty good fence), I'm in the boat business. I own and drive a boat that is in the top 1% of fastest boats on the planet, but when a man walks in my shop with a 35 horse ol' Mercury, on a 16 foot jon boat, that he loves . . . . . . .I don't tell him what a piece of sheit he is.
I appreciate what you're saying although it's not exactly apples to apples. And I don't reckon that 1percenter is held together with halfazz either. The op was asking a question and i stick by my answer. As far as fives option.... let's just be glad he didn't recommend some roofing product he liberated from work...
He's insulted my work and my intelligence , just fine I'm all grown up and I'll just let it go before someone gets their feelings hurt and leaves.....rengr... ;-) :lol2:
1981 your county was designated a free range county. Is that still in effect??Caustic Burno":2q6nfnpv said:M-5":2q6nfnpv said:Get in the real world, everybody don't have a mountain of cash buried in back yard to fix or buy new every time something needs doin. You will Loose the dam farm trying to impress the neighbors too.
You lose it quicker with pee poor fences. Has nothing to do with impression till your in front of a jury.
One word will get you every time in Texas is knowingly. If you know the Fence is substandard or should have known open up the liability checkbook.
TexasBred":37crv5ik said:1981 your county was designated a free range county. Is that still in effect??Caustic Burno":37crv5ik said:M-5":37crv5ik said:Get in the real world, everybody don't have a mountain of cash buried in back yard to fix or buy new every time something needs doin. You will Loose the dam farm trying to impress the neighbors too.
You lose it quicker with pee poor fences. Has nothing to do with impression till your in front of a jury.
One word will get you every time in Texas is knowingly. If you know the Fence is substandard or should have known open up the liability checkbook.
I hear you. Gotta hire a Philadelphia lawyer to know if you are required to build a fence or not.Caustic Burno":3ibfg1jc said:TexasBred":3ibfg1jc said:1981 your county was designated a free range county. Is that still in effect??Caustic Burno":3ibfg1jc said:You lose it quicker with pee poor fences. Has nothing to do with impression till your in front of a jury.
One word will get you every time in Texas is knowingly. If you know the Fence is substandard or should have known open up the liability checkbook.
No TB last I looked it up there was only 20 or so free range counties left in the state. TSCRA had a list in an issue.
TB I have talked with our State Representative several times as Texas fence laws are as screwed up as a football bat. Just finding out if your county is open or closed is a pain in the a$$.
https://agrilife.org/texasaglaw/2014/05 ... ot-part-1/