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I have a couple charts that I keep here near the computer, with money conversions, and temp conversions so when you guys talk about things, I can do a quick check and better relate to what you are talking about... because I do not remember stuff... My age not withstanding, that goes back to the severe car wreck I had in 1989 and the head trauma... lost all sorts of memory stuff and I have learned to compensate for some things.... Sad that I lost so many memories of different family things... but what the he//..... I'm still here and fairly coherent :unsure::rolleyes:🤣🤣
 
Some of the mysteries of life:

What is the weight of a bushel?
What is the volume of a bushel?
Is a bushel a measure of volume or weight?
When you sell corn, barley, oats or soybeans, do you get paid by weight or volume?
What is the difference between short tons and long tons? Short and long normally refer to distance, not weight.

Would we all be better off if we just each sent some fence money to Dave instead of funneling the money through the government? Which method will be more dependable for the ranchers?

Who benefitted from the things here that have already changed to metric? I will answer that one - the people who make and sell tools and wrenches.
 
farmerjan said:
I have a couple charts that I keep here near the computer, with money conversions, and temp conversions so when you guys talk about things, I can do a quick check and better relate to what you are talking about... because I do not remember stuff... My age not withstanding, that goes back to the severe car wreck I had in 1989 and the head trauma... lost all sorts of memory stuff and I have learned to compensate for some things.... Sad that I lost so many memories of different family things... but what the he//..... I'm still here and fairly coherent :unsure::rolleyes:🤣🤣
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You are very coherent ! The memories are all still stored safely within you. It's the pathways to them that get damaged.
 
simme said:
Would we all be better off if we just each sent some fence money to Dave instead of funneling the money through the government? Which method will be more dependable for the ranchers?
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I look around here when I go hiking and I see T-posts in old fence lines that haven't had wire on them for fifty years and the posts are still good and just sitting there doing nothing. If I knew who owned them I'd be inclined to ask if I could salvage the posts to send NW. It would be good exercise and I'm sure anyone in the burn would need them, especially if there is no government assist. I've been in a declared disaster and applied for assistance to rebuild a fence (even though I could have applied for much more) and after five (?) attempts I gave up due to the changing rules each time and having to reapply. Maybe I didn't ask for enough. Who knows?
So yeah, I suspect we could help... but the one good thing about the government doing it (IF the do it) is that it spreads the burden out in an attempt to be equal and so everyone participates... instead of some ducking out and doing nothing.
 
farmerjan said:
About $2150-2200 US... is that a mile = 5280 ft? Not being a wise guy... is there a difference in mile length in Canada from US, like the imperial gallon to US gallon... or do you all use liters for liquid measure all the time?
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Joking aside. A mile her in the US is the same mile in Canada. However, Up north they measure in kilometers. A kilometer is not a mile. A mile is equal to roughly 1.61 Kilometers. For example, you might see a speed limit of 100 kmh there. Sounds fast.... it's just over 62 mph.
 
simme said:
Some of the mysteries of life:

What is the weight of a bushel?
What is the volume of a bushel?
Is a bushel a measure of volume or weight?
When you sell corn, barley, oats or soybeans, do you get paid by weight or volume?
What is the difference between short tons and long tons? Short and long normally refer to distance, not weight.

Would we all be better off if we just each sent some fence money to Dave instead of funneling the money through the government? Which method will be more dependable for the ranchers?

Who benefitted from the things here that have already changed to metric? I will answer that one - the people who make and sell tools and wrenches.
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STOP! You are making my head hurt! 🤪
 
Easy way to convert kilograms to pounds. Double the pounds and add 10%.

107 kilograms times 2 = 214. Add 21# for the 10%. 214+21 = 235 pounds
 
wbvs58 said:
It is there, many of your vehicles have metric nuts and bolts, it's sneaking up on you.

Ken
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How is your land surveyed Ken? Here it was all surveyed before the metric system so us agricultural types tend to use the imperial system for figuring distances. We know that there are visible clues (fences, straight lines where land was cleared, property lines and such) so we can see the 1/2 mile and mile lines in many places for the quarter section and section lines. Road allowances tend to follow section lines where possible as well.
 
Silver said:
How is your land surveyed Ken? Here it was all surveyed before the metric system so us agricultural types tend to use the imperial system for figuring distances. We know that there are visible clues (fences, straight lines where land was cleared, property lines and such) so we can see the 1/2 mile and mile lines in many places for the quarter section and section lines. Road allowances tend to follow section lines where possible as well.
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Everything has changed over to metric, metres, kilometres, hectares, one hectare being 100x100 metres but works out to 2.5 acres. People still talk acres a lot especially real estate agents trying to sell a place as 100 acres sounds a lot more than 40 hectares. I look at the old survey plans a lot and these are always a starting point if you are having a survey done and of course these are all imperial, road reserves are 1 chain wide, survey marks will be a bearing and so many "links" from a blaze with arrow in a tree but when a new survey plan is done it will all be in metric.
Around here 40 acres was a common size block as they were all old mining leases converted over to freehold and then the surveyors had to provide road reserves to each block, I think they must have drawn these in the office as a lot of these roads are up and over some pretty substantial rock. Out where I live my land is on 12 titles.
All the online mapping is brilliant I can overlay absolutely everything on my place, regulated vegetation maps, waterways property boundries, roads just to name a few. The measuring tools are all metric where you can accurately measure distances or measure the area of a paddock, I couldn't imagine these tools using anything other than metric.
Ken
 
wbvs58 said:
Everything has changed over to metric, metres, kilometres, hectares, one hectare being 100x100 metres but works out to 2.5 acres. People still talk acres a lot especially real estate agents trying to sell a place as 100 acres sounds a lot more than 40 hectares. I look at the old survey plans a lot and these are always a starting point if you are having a survey done and of course these are all imperial, road reserves are 1 chain wide, survey marks will be a bearing and so many "links" from a blaze with arrow in a tree but when a new survey plan is done it will all be in metric.
Around here 40 acres was a common size block as they were all old mining leases converted over to freehold and then the surveyors had to provide road reserves to each block, I think they must have drawn these in the office as a lot of these roads are up and over some pretty substantial rock. Out where I live my land is on 12 titles.
All the online mapping is brilliant I can overlay absolutely everything on my place, regulated vegetation maps, waterways property boundries, roads just to name a few. The measuring tools are all metric where you can accurately measure distances or measure the area of a paddock, I couldn't imagine these tools using anything other than metric.
Ken
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We switched to metric in similar fashion, but my point is that the old land titles are in 1/4 section blocks (in my area, which is what I'm familiar with. It's not the same everywhere). They didn't pull survey monuments and move them so property boundaries and road right of ways are still where they have always been.
Once we get out away from the old surveys then the survey will be the modern style. So the land with the old surveys will be quarter, section, township, range (my home quarter is NE sec 35, TP 85, Rge 23 W6M. ) W6M being west of the 6th meridian.
Once we get out of the old survey we get the modern NTS (national topographical system) which is based on degrees of latitude and longitude.
We also have some very good online mapping tools available to us with hundreds of layers probably similar to yours. I can draw a line around any piece of land and measure it in units of my choosing, in metric or imperial. Quite handy for sure.
 

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