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<blockquote data-quote="hillsdown" data-source="post: 651825" data-attributes="member: 5106"><p>SL I have offered you and every one here very valuable advice , take it or leave it. </p><p></p><p>As far as using dex I have said it many times before and I do hope that people here know me well enough that I do not dispense health/breeding advice without relaying what our procedures are and why we do things this way at the advice of a very very good vet..</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Now if the cl is killed at an early stage we call it an absorption because the fertilized embryo is just absorbed by the animal ( more complicated but that is how a vet refers to it) When the fetus is 3 months and older it will not be absorbed (obviously it is larger) but needs to be expelled, this is where dex a corticosteroid is given..</p><p></p><p>Some breeds are extremely fertile little buggers so if you ween/work anything that could have been exposed to a bull 4 months old and up (which is more likely than not) you could have a bred calf. If the calf is more than 3 months bred you need to use dex to induce labor (corticosteroids at proper dosage result in induction of parturition ) after you have terminated the fetus because more than likely if you do not it will stay in the calf and cause all sorts of problems from mummification ,metritis, to the worst case death from infection. </p><p></p><p>When I go over my herd health protocol we due each fall (preg check and vaccinate calves/cows) my Vet always insists that we use estrumate as well as dex for each heifer just in case, and will not risk using prostaglandin alone, so that is what I do. It costs me 10 dollars per calf (will be cheaper for you Americans) but is definitely worth it rather than the alternative. I want my seed stock bred on my schedule and to the bull I choose and I want my feeder heifers as well as replacements open for whomever they go to..I may go the extra mile but for now that is how I am going to operate..</p><p></p><p>I hope this explains everything. </p><p></p><p>As far as one hit wonders they are a huge problem still in the industry but with education we can help...If you cannot count to two do not band. You are better off leaving nuts intact then doing a half @ss job, and the buyer knows that they are still there and not assuming they have been done correctly. But as pedigrees get better calves having both "boys" down as soon as they are born are becoming more and more the norm and it is hard <strong>not </strong>to get both unless you really really try..</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="hillsdown, post: 651825, member: 5106"] SL I have offered you and every one here very valuable advice , take it or leave it. As far as using dex I have said it many times before and I do hope that people here know me well enough that I do not dispense health/breeding advice without relaying what our procedures are and why we do things this way at the advice of a very very good vet.. Now if the cl is killed at an early stage we call it an absorption because the fertilized embryo is just absorbed by the animal ( more complicated but that is how a vet refers to it) When the fetus is 3 months and older it will not be absorbed (obviously it is larger) but needs to be expelled, this is where dex a corticosteroid is given.. Some breeds are extremely fertile little buggers so if you ween/work anything that could have been exposed to a bull 4 months old and up (which is more likely than not) you could have a bred calf. If the calf is more than 3 months bred you need to use dex to induce labor (corticosteroids at proper dosage result in induction of parturition ) after you have terminated the fetus because more than likely if you do not it will stay in the calf and cause all sorts of problems from mummification ,metritis, to the worst case death from infection. When I go over my herd health protocol we due each fall (preg check and vaccinate calves/cows) my Vet always insists that we use estrumate as well as dex for each heifer just in case, and will not risk using prostaglandin alone, so that is what I do. It costs me 10 dollars per calf (will be cheaper for you Americans) but is definitely worth it rather than the alternative. I want my seed stock bred on my schedule and to the bull I choose and I want my feeder heifers as well as replacements open for whomever they go to..I may go the extra mile but for now that is how I am going to operate.. I hope this explains everything. As far as one hit wonders they are a huge problem still in the industry but with education we can help...If you cannot count to two do not band. You are better off leaving nuts intact then doing a half @ss job, and the buyer knows that they are still there and not assuming they have been done correctly. But as pedigrees get better calves having both "boys" down as soon as they are born are becoming more and more the norm and it is hard [b]not [/b]to get both unless you really really try.. [/QUOTE]
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