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<blockquote data-quote="Howdyjabo" data-source="post: 604736" data-attributes="member: 391"><p><em>"I agree that feedlots make cheap beef. But the idea that the cattle are kept content and comfortable?"</em></p><p></p><p>Its not an "idea" its proven out with production numbers </p><p></p><p><em>"My 8th edition Merck Veterinary Manual says that up to 40% of cattle slaughtered in the US had liver abscesses."</em></p><p></p><p>YUpp- and the cattle don't even know they are there. I will agree that there are some feeders that don't manage the feeds properly and run into metabolic issues that are detrimental to the calves comfort and health. But they are in the minority because you can't make money and hurt your stock. Painting the whole system the same because of a few bad apples is just stupid. The normal liver abscesses are a concern not because of the calves health/growth but because of not being able to sell the blemished liver.</p><p></p><p> </p><p> <em>"Acidosis also causes laminitis of the feet, lameness - a big problem in dairy cows."</em></p><p><em></em></p><p>Guess you are against dairys and most kids being able to have milk too <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p><em>"I'm not sure how you get nutritious beef out of candy. I guess if I feed my kids M&M's and donuts and give them a vitamin/mineral supplement they are well fed?</em></p></blockquote><p></p><p></p><p>now you are just being dense and objectionable- reread my original post again.</p><p>[/QUOTE]</p>
[QUOTE="Howdyjabo, post: 604736, member: 391"] [i]"I agree that feedlots make cheap beef. But the idea that the cattle are kept content and comfortable?"[/i] Its not an "idea" its proven out with production numbers [i]"My 8th edition Merck Veterinary Manual says that up to 40% of cattle slaughtered in the US had liver abscesses."[/i] YUpp- and the cattle don't even know they are there. I will agree that there are some feeders that don't manage the feeds properly and run into metabolic issues that are detrimental to the calves comfort and health. But they are in the minority because you can't make money and hurt your stock. Painting the whole system the same because of a few bad apples is just stupid. The normal liver abscesses are a concern not because of the calves health/growth but because of not being able to sell the blemished liver. [i]"Acidosis also causes laminitis of the feet, lameness - a big problem in dairy cows." [/i] Guess you are against dairys and most kids being able to have milk too :) [i]"I'm not sure how you get nutritious beef out of candy. I guess if I feed my kids M&M's and donuts and give them a vitamin/mineral supplement they are well fed?[/quote][/i] now you are just being dense and objectionable- reread my original post again. [/QUOTE]
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