552 died without much semen up here-when they announced it at our Alta Genetics meeting I went to the bathroom and bought it all up on the way back to the meeting. I sold it all to Fraser's -it as going to more good in their PB cows since it was in short supply. Then I got lucky enough to find a purebred breeder with 100 straws of 8020 at $20 I gathered that up so got lucky on that. He was barely used up here-Fraser's were the only ones that used him heavy-sold some very good sons over the years Aron Doerkson at Gem bought a good one that they're still using at nine or ten-I think they're ran twenty some sons in their commercial herd too. Douglas Lake spent the most money they ever have on an 8020 son-they run 5-6000 cows so run alot of bulls. It's hard not to like him the cows are sound as well maybe even sounder than the dollar and seem to last for a long time-my oplkdest are tens and show no signs of weakening as yet.