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<blockquote data-quote="Alberta farmer" data-source="post: 606646" data-attributes="member: 8978"><p>Nesikep: Not quite sure how that "open range" thing works in BC? I assume it is something like our "community pasture" system in Alberta? Basically how this works is the Alberta has large tracts of land that they fence, brush, plant grass etc. and then allow ranchers to apply for so many AUMs...usually in 25 head groups. </p><p>The Alberta government also leases land as grazing leases. This has become sort of a scandal as the grazing leases are considered real property and are bought and sold like the land is deeded. The leasee pays a per head fee every year but is also entitled to the surface lease for oil and gas exploration. The Alberta government recieves about $3 million a year in grazing fees and the leasees recieve about $100 million a year in surface rights leases! Obviously the Alberta taxpayer is subsidizing the leasees in a big way? If no cows were allowed on the grazing leases the Alberta taxpayer would be $97 million dollars richer. Premier Klein tried to change this system but almost got his lunch handed to him by the lease holders. He backed down real quick!</p><p>It seems to me that this is a very unfair system, when some people are paid to pasture their cows while others have to pay private landowners for pasture? The guy grazing his cows on public grazing leases has a pretty big advantage?</p><p>I have a neighbor who sends 25 cows to a community pasture every year. He has to pay trucking for about 300 miles and pay for a bull debenture....says it works out to about $21/month/AUM with the grazing fees. He says it would just be great if he got 25 cows/calves back every year but he is always short a couple of calves!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Alberta farmer, post: 606646, member: 8978"] Nesikep: Not quite sure how that "open range" thing works in BC? I assume it is something like our "community pasture" system in Alberta? Basically how this works is the Alberta has large tracts of land that they fence, brush, plant grass etc. and then allow ranchers to apply for so many AUMs...usually in 25 head groups. The Alberta government also leases land as grazing leases. This has become sort of a scandal as the grazing leases are considered real property and are bought and sold like the land is deeded. The leasee pays a per head fee every year but is also entitled to the surface lease for oil and gas exploration. The Alberta government recieves about $3 million a year in grazing fees and the leasees recieve about $100 million a year in surface rights leases! Obviously the Alberta taxpayer is subsidizing the leasees in a big way? If no cows were allowed on the grazing leases the Alberta taxpayer would be $97 million dollars richer. Premier Klein tried to change this system but almost got his lunch handed to him by the lease holders. He backed down real quick! It seems to me that this is a very unfair system, when some people are paid to pasture their cows while others have to pay private landowners for pasture? The guy grazing his cows on public grazing leases has a pretty big advantage? I have a neighbor who sends 25 cows to a community pasture every year. He has to pay trucking for about 300 miles and pay for a bull debenture....says it works out to about $21/month/AUM with the grazing fees. He says it would just be great if he got 25 cows/calves back every year but he is always short a couple of calves! [/QUOTE]
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