Dye

[Triple D]

What would make a good dye to mix with my poison when spraying. I wanta be able see what I've sprayed and what I haven't. Something that wouldn't mess up the o rings in my spray rig. You think that "rit" clothes dye would work?
Thanks

 

[dun]

What would make a good dye to mix with my poison when spraying. I wanta be able see what I've sprayed and what I haven't. Something that wouldn't mess up the o rings in my spray rig. You think that "rit" clothes dye would work?
Thanks

I thought Rit would do a good job too. Mixed one whole package in 6 gallons. If the light was just right you could almost make out where you had been. I also tried a bottle of clothes bluing, same results.

dun

 

[Triple D]

Ok then. So much for that idea. I guess food coloring would be outta the question. :lol: Any other ideas there Dun?

 

[jkwilson]

What would make a good dye to mix with my poison when spraying. I wanta be able see what I've sprayed and what I haven't. Something that wouldn't mess up the o rings in my spray rig. You think that "rit" clothes dye would work?
Thanks

You can buy marker dye specifically for spraying. About $10 a quart. One mix rate for foam, another for spot spraying. Half an ounce to the gallon for spot spraying, so it will go 64 gallons to the bottle.

 

[dun]

Ok then. So much for that idea. I guess food coloring would be outta the question. :lol: Any other ideas there Dun?

jkwilson has it! I was trying to find a cheaper method because that stuff was/is so expensive when I priced it. May be a case of "penny wise and pound foolish" to try to find an alternative.

dun

 

[Triple D]

That's me, always trying to find a cheaper way out. Yea that "penny wise and pound foolish" think is a big problem in my world. Course when you just got pennies, I guess you gotta just do the best you can. ;-) Thanks

 

[milesvb]

From experience:

The marker dyes that I've seen come in red or blue and a few different brands. The red stuff (that we've tried), for whatever reason, leaves a sticky residue on whatever it touches and it's hard to get off once it dries. It also seemed to deteriorate our hoses and wasn't all that visible on vegetation. The blue stuff has worked a lot better. It's easily water soluble even after it's dry and I can tell which mesquites, locusts, etc. I've sprayed even two days or so later when used according to the rates on the label. Of course I'm spraying IPT and I guess it might get pretty expensive if you were putting out a volume of spray in a pasture.

 

[Triple D]

Ok milesvb, I give, what the is IPT spraying? I'm spot spraying but I'm kinda doing a test on which poison mixture seems to work best. Remedy around here, at about 100.00 bucks a gallon, I don't like spraying em twice. :roll: Them squites seem to wilt in a day or so but I got some that seem to come back a week or so later. Thanks for the advice. What about a light touch of a bright latex paint mixed in, red or yellow or something? Think that might work?

 

[dun]

What about a light touch of a bright latex paint mixed in, red or yellow or something? Think that might work?

I'ld be concerned about gumming up the pump, hoses and nozzle. For anything wrist size or larger I've had much better success with the basal spray then the foliar spray. But I'm only sparying scattered stuff. Nest week I'll be spraying a couple of pastures with a foliar spray to try to get rid of the blackberrys. In those areas it's a plant every couple of feet. I've tried spot spraying them and it took all day to do a couple of acres. I have better things to do then squirt individual plants so I'm going to try getting the whole area with the boom sprayer. It will take a lot more Remedy, but hopefully it will get the smaller plants that I don;t see when I'm spot spraying.
Blackberrys have so far been the single toughest thing I've tried to kill.

dun

 

[sidney411]

We use a product called 'Bigfoot' that we mix in with the spray, it's blue and you can see it quite well and it doesn't stay for weeks either.

 

[milesvb]

Ok milesvb, I give, what the is IPT spraying? I'm spot spraying but I'm kinda doing a test on which poison mixture seems to work best. Remedy around here, at about 100.00 bucks a gallon, I don't like spraying em twice. :roll: Them squites seem to wilt in a day or so but I got some that seem to come back a week or so later. Thanks for the advice. What about a light touch of a bright latex paint mixed in, red or yellow or something? Think that might work?

IPT=Individual Plant Treatment

http://texnat.tamu.edu/brshbst/index.htm

I use the Remedy/Reclaim mix. I may use pure Reclaim this year because it's not that much more expensive per 25 gallons of mix.

The dye we've used for the last few years is called "Loveland Industries Marker Dye", 16-24 oz./100 gal. I use 8 ounces per 25 gallons of mix and 20 ounces (I think) of "Induce" brand surfactant. If you spray mesquites when they are drought stressed or insect damaged you're not going to get a very good kill percentage at all. The healthier and more luxuriant the foliage the better the kill.

 

[milesvb]

Ok milesvb, I give, what the is IPT spraying? I'm spot spraying but I'm kinda doing a test on which poison mixture seems to work best. Remedy around here, at about 100.00 bucks a gallon, I don't like spraying em twice. :roll: Them squites seem to wilt in a day or so but I got some that seem to come back a week or so later. Thanks for the advice. What about a light touch of a bright latex paint mixed in, red or yellow or something? Think that might work?

IPT=Individual Plant Treatment

http://texnat.tamu.edu/brshbst/index.htm

I use the Remedy/Reclaim mix. I may use pure Reclaim this year because it's not that much more expensive per 25 gallons of mix.

The dye we've used for the last few years is called "Loveland Industries Marker Dye", 16-24 oz./100 gal. I use 8 ounces per 25 gallons of mix and 20 ounces (I think) of "Induce" brand surfactant. If you spray mesquites when they are drought stressed or insect damaged you're not going to get a very good kill percentage at all. The healthier and more luxuriant the foliage the better the kill.

I don't know what you're using but if they are recovering that fast then it's a waste of time and money. If you follow the recomendations for Reclaim or Reclaim/Remedy mix then I think you can reasonably expect an 85-90% kill. A year later the survivors will usually sprout some deformed looking foliage as they try to rebound. Hit them again and that will usually be the end of it. Whatever you do, do NOT disturb the plant by cutting or shredding after it defoliates. They need a year or so for the roots to completely die.

 

[Triple D]

Thanks for the tips all. Dun/milesvb, I'm having to do the foliar method as these things have been shreaded for several years and now come up in a multi-steam fashion which makes it hard to go with the basal method and get good coverage. I've been trying remedy and diesel in the past. I know remedy/reclaim is the way to go. Here you have to have an applicators license to get the reclaim but not remedy. I'll have to work on that. Thanks again.

 

[milesvb]

Thanks for the tips all. Dun/milesvb, I'm having to do the foliar method as these things have been shreaded for several years and now come up in a multi-steam fashion which makes it hard to go with the basal method and get good coverage. I've been trying remedy and diesel in the past. I know remedy/reclaim is the way to go. Here you have to have an applicators license to get the reclaim but not remedy. I'll have to work on that. Thanks again.

WHAT?!?!?!? Applicators license for Reclaim? That's about the most benign herbicide out there (except to mesquite). I hope you're mistaken. Where did you find that out? Whereabouts are you located? Please PM me if you want. I picked up 4 gallons last year at a very good price but it ain't gonna last forever.

Good luck with the spraying, you'll need a good dose of patience dealing with that shredded stuff.

 

[Arnold Ziffle]

TripleD --- I may have mis-read your recent post, but if you've been using Remedy/diesel for foliar treatment that was a mistake (one that I made my first time out years ago). That combination will rapidly defoliate the plant, but before enough of the poison can translocate. Use Remedy/diesel only for basal stem treatment. And of course you are all correct, in that for foliar treatment of mesquite the best combination is water-surfacant-Remedy-Reclaim. Reclaim was developed specifically to kill the one plant so near and dear to Texans, mesquite! Miles is correct about not shredding it until it is good and dead.

Also, if you are paying close to $100/gallon for Remedy you might benefit from a little comparison shopping around. I bought over 60 gallons of Remedy last year and paid right at $87/gallon --- bought a few gallons last week for $87.50 per gallon. I think the ag suppliers can get it in 30 gallon barrels, but I was disappointed to find that it was only $2 to $3 per gallon cheaper buying it in the barrel, so I keep on buying it in the 4 gallon case.

Good luck, especially with all those multistemmed mesquites; I've had similar problems, albeit with multistemmed huisache.

 

[Triple D]

Thanks for all the info folks. Yes, I talked with a friend of mine who's father had an applicators license and he told me that reclaim now required an applicators license. I'm not sure. He ain't around to get it for me though. I do know that I tried to buy some last year in a different part of the state and they told me I had to have a license. I'm pretty sure it's a federal thing so I don't know that it matters where your at. I may be mistaken though. I've been told Remedy/Grazon P+D is the way to go for what I'm trying, and I feel pretty comfortable in saying the grazon P+D requires a license, maybe that's what I was thinking of. For the most part, I'm having everything dozed and then I come back and spray what's missed and pops up, which it's that time of year now. Spraying what I dozed last year. It's only 110 acre part I'm trying to reclaim, not real thick put has to be cleaned up before discing. I'm open to all suggestions and advise. Of course money is an issue. I'm in Limestone co. I just wanta get it cleaned up this year and start with common bermuda next spring. I hope to have it all sprigged in costal in a couple years. I'll be off line a few days now, but I'd like to hear yall's advise. I'll be back next week. Thanks again.

 

[Bama]

As far as the dye in the tank. I picked up a tip here a few months back. Mount a small tank to your rig and run this to the end nozzles only. I'm planning on setting my rig up like that.

 

[ga. prime]

How hard is it to get a private applicator's license in Tx.? Anybody can get one here in Ga. if you've got an hour or two to spend at the county extension office. A commercial license is another matter. But, you can get any pesticide you want with the applicators license for your private use.

 

[dun]

How hard is it to get a private applicator's license in Tx.? Anybody can get one here in Ga. if you've got an hour or two to spend at the county extension office. A commercial license is another matter. But, you can get any pesticide you want with the applicators license for your private use.

It's the same in MO and there is no way you can fail to pass the course

dun

 

[sidney411]

The class in Texas is like 6 hours and you have to get a certain number of CE (continuing education) credits each 5 years to keep up the license. The extension office provides classes that are free or cheap, and they usually feed you. It's just finding the time to go to them.

We also have a 30ft three part boom sprayer. We got one of the little 15 gallon ATV mount sprayers and ran 1 nozzle to the very end of the boom. It runs off of the little pump from the tank, that way we can turn it off independently from the big rig. We only need it on 1 end because we spray in a circular fasion, 1, 15 gal tank of dye will last as long as 2, 300 gallon fill ups. This way saves a lot on the dye, and the whole pasture isn't blue either.