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I guess ya don't have to know everything to be in this business. If you did , I'd sure be outta luck.

Unless you are buying,feeding, or shipping #7-#8wt. hfrs. I guess the term would'nt be of much use to ya.

Carry on ol' man, I guess you've made it O.K.this long. No need to learn anything new at this point.

popcorn
 
Texan":dc60vfjj said:
Caustic Burno":dc60vfjj said:
Well popcorn I have been running cattle for decades ( before the internet was discovered by Al Gore) and never heard the term except on this board figured it was a cowboy that wore pink chaps.
Don't worry, Caustic. Everybody can't be informed about simple marketing terms. Try spending a little more time talking to some real cattle buyers instead of those bib overall wearing wannabes/usedtobes that you sit with at the salebarn.
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Texan,

How true...how true. :shock:

But for some folks that's the way it is while the world passes them by. :roll:
 
I believe that if I Ever used the term "Heiferette" at a local sale barn in this part of the Country, Bubba and Cooter would probably escort me out the door, strip me and make me wear a pink bow tie ,tied to a post in the median of I-65.
 
I've heard a lot of Southerners are into that sort of thing. :lol:
 
I'm sorry, I just couldn't resist after all the "Yankee" bashing I've been reading. I usually just laugh along, but I still didn't want to miss a chance to return the shot. Just having some fun.
 
Dave here...raining and I don't feel much like doing a whole alot today, anyway, I guess that I'm one of those folks that sit with the usetobes at the sale, yeah we get the senior discount without asking, I suppose that I learn something new every sale usually about cows. I remember asking awhile back what a hefferette was because the auctioneer had one in the ring...first calf heifer was the reply from everyone within earshot, never hear the term in conversation though just read about it in the market reports.
Dave Mc
 
Susie David":t95f72uh said:
Dave here...raining and I don't feel much like doing a whole alot today.

105 with a heat index of 130. Must have moved back to the desert when I wasn;t paying attention

dun
 
I would like to know where in Eastern Washington he lives that it is raining hard enough to stay inside. Here on the wet side of the hill we had a little sprinkle at 6:00 this morning. It was barely enough to settle the dust. The weather forcast this morning said the east side was going to be in the 90's with wind and high fire danger.

Dave
 
Caustic Burno":1amr9wbl said:
Longtails4Me":1amr9wbl said:
Seems most internet cattlemen don't know what heiferettes are....that's interesting. ;-) It is a basic class of feeder cattle,
that has been explained very well. The male counterpart is called a "cutting bull". You can call anyone in any part of the country that feeds or ships cattle, and he'll know exactly what your talking about. Basic stuff here.

Well popcorn I have been running cattle for decades ( before the internet was discovered by Al Gore) and never heard the term except on this board figured it was a cowboy that wore pink chaps.
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caustic buno,

Well the more i read and see how wrong you are in your posts ..the more I become convinced you have never been around cows...let alone decades. You don't know what a heiferette is?

Since you appear to be a ...wannna-be-cattleman...I will help you become acclimated to the cattleman's lingo so you can feel more like one. Please share it with crowderfarms who also seems a little behind..which is generally the case with a tag-a-long.

Keep in mind this forum is generally for beginners and one should not be hesitant to ask a question when you do not know or understand something.

Please pay close attention to number 29. A very common term cattleman use.



"CATTLEMEN'S GUIDE TO FEEDYARD TERMINOLOGY

by: Stephen B. Blezinger
Ph.D, PAS

Part 2

In the last issue we looked at many of the concepts surrounding cattle feeding. While many of the concepts discussed are common and almost ultra-elementary if you are a member of the cattle feeding industry, they tend to be quite foreign to many "outsiders." Cattle feeders have a language of their own that to many cow/calf producers is like speaking Greek. In this installment we'll examine some of this terminology that is unfamiliar to many. This terminology may vary somewhat from area to area depending on the part of the country where the feedyard is located. Also, this list is not meant to be all-inclusive but presents many of the terms commonly used in the cattle feeding industry.


Cattleman's Guide to Feedyard Terminology

1) Acidosis -- The condition is observed from mild off-feed to chronic off-feed, lameness or even to mortalities. Also may be referred to as rumen overload, digestive upset or grain overload.

2) ADG -- Average daily gain. The amount of gain divided by the number of days in the feeding period.

3) Auction Market or Barn -- The most common option for selling cattle is the Livestock Auction Market. This is a centrally located facility where beef producers take their cattle to be sold. The cattle are sold by auction to the highest bidder.

4) Backgrounding -- Calves put on a high-forage ration to increase their weight to between 800 to 900 pounds before being placed on finishing rations.

5) Breakeven -- The sale price ($ per cwt.) at which the owner of the cattle does not make or lose money.

6) Buller(s) -- Steers that are ridden by other steers in the pen (as with cows or heifers that are "bulling"). If problems persist, animals are usually removed from the pen to prevent bruising, injury and reduction in performance of the other cattle.

7) Chute Charges -- A fee charged by some feedlots each time cattle are worked through the chute.

8) Close-outs -- A detailed description of pen performance, feed intake, death loss, and profit or loss. A close-out is generated each time a pen of cattle is sold. Can be calculated on a "deads-in" or "deads-out" basis.

9) Company Cattle -- Cattle that are owned and fed by the feedlot. See also Customer Cattle.

10) Cost of Gain -- Total of all feedlot-related costs (feed, yardage, processing, medicine, and death loss) divided by total gain during the feeding period. Can be calculated on a "deads-in" or "deads-out" basis.

11) Custom Feedyard -- A feedyard that feeds, manages and markets cattle for customers. Fees are charged for materials (feed, hay, medicine, etc.) and services.

12) Customer Cattle -- Cattle that are owned by an investor, rancher or other client of the feedlot. They are fed and managed for a fee.

13) Dark Cutter(s) -- Carcasses that have muscle tissue that is dark colored rather than the desirable cherry red. Usually, they are a result of depletions in muscle glycogen stores. Dark cutters can be influenced by implant strategy, cattle handling techniques, weather and gender.

14) Days on Feed - The number of days the cattle are fed.

15) Deads-in/Deads-out -- These terms refer to the methods used to calculate close-outs, costs of gain and breakeven. They can be calculated with "deads-in" or with "deads-out" of the calculations. "Deads-in" refers to leaving the dead cattle in the calculations, while "deads-out" refers to leaving the dead cattle out of the calculations.

16) Dressing Percent -- Carcass weight divided by final live weight times 100.

17) Dry Matter Basis -- Feed that is adjusted to zero moisture to account for variation in moisture content.

18) Dry Rolling -- Grain processing method in which grain is rolled without steaming.

19) Dry Supplement -- Supplement that is generally in pellets and fed in a dry form in a mixed ration.

20) Feed Alley or Lane -- The road used by the feed trucks to deliver feed to the pen.

21) Feed Conversion or Efficiency -- The amount of feed consumed by an animal per unit of body weight gain. Expressed as pounds of feed per pounds of gain.

22) Feed Markup -- The amount that the feedlot marks up the feed charges. Charges vary with each lot. Feed markup can be charged as a percentage of the feed bill or as a flat fee per ton of feed.

23) Feeder Association -- A cooperative association formed to acquire livestock for growing or finishing.

24) Flaker -- A mill that steam flakes grain.

25) Forward Contract -- Cattle are pre-sold for a determined price and are delivered to the buyer. The animals are paid for at a future date when they reach a specific weight. Contracts oblige all parties to act according to legal standards. It is important that producers understand all the terms and conditions of the contract before signing.

26) Grass Cattle -- Cattle that were grown on pasture before placement in the feedlot. See also Yearlings.

27) Green Cattle -- Cattle that are relatively thin with only small amounts of body condition.

28) Grid(s) -- A method of pricing slaughter cattle that offers premiums and discounts for cattle. Depending on the situaion, cattle that are leaner and have a higher-quality grade receive the premiums. Grids generally have other specifications for carcass weight and dark cutters as well.

29) Heiferettes -- Heifers placed on feed following the loss of a calf or open heifers placed on feed following the breeding season. Typically these animals are a little older than those normally going into the feedyard.

30) Ionophore -- Feed additive that enhances feed efficiency in cattle by altering ruminal fermentation. These include: Rumensintm (monensin), Bovatectm (lasalocid) and Cattlysttm (laidlomycin propionate) which are the approved ionophores used in diets for finishing cattle.

31) Inventory Gain/Loss -- The amount of gain or loss in feed inventory because of storage, milling and processing feed.

32) Limit or Programmed Feeding -- Limiting energy intake to achieve a desired rate of gain during the growing period. Often used in growing and backgrounding situations to have cattle ready for market at a specific point in time.

33) Liquid Supplement -- Liquid supplement based on molasses that contains urea. Used to provide supplemental protein in a finishing diet. May also contain supplemental calcium, phosphorus, salt, ionophores and other feed additives.

34) Live Sale -- Method of sale in which the cattle are sold to the packer "live" at the feedlot. The packer is responsible for transporting the animals to the slaughter facility.

35) Livestock Broker -- Brokers buy or sell livestock on behalf of someone. For example, if a producer has a load of fat cattle for processing, a broker will try to get the best bid from different plants. If the seller agrees to sell the cattle at the bid price, the broker arranges details such as trucking, manifests, etc. The payment from the plant goes to the broker who retains a fee (usually a dollar rate per head) and pays the producer the balance.

36) Long Yearlings -- Yearlings that have had an extended period of grazing. Usually placed on feed in the fall following a full summer grazing season. Fed for 120 days or less. See also Short Yearlings or Yearlings.

37) Morbidity -- Refers to number of cattle, in a group that develop a clinical disease following exposure to a disease-causing agent.

38) Mortality -- Refers to number of cattle in a group that die from a clinical disease following exposure to a disease-causing agent.

39) Pay Weight -- Shrunk live weight of an animal at the time of sale. Usually four per cent. See also Pencil Shrink.

40) Pen Deads -- Cattle that are found dead in the pen. Cause of death is usually unknown.

41) Pencil Shrink -- An arithmetic deduction of weight from the live weight of an animal to account for fill: usually three percent for cattle off pasture and four per cent for off-feed weights of fed cattle. See also Pay Weight.

42) Presort Sale -- Cattle from different producers are grouped in lots by sex, weight, type and condition. Cattle are weighed coming in, less an estimate or pencil shrink, depending on the distance to sale.

43) Processing -- Vaccinating, treating for internal and external parasites, ear tagging and other procedures such as implanting, dehorning and castration that are done soon after cattle arrive at the feedlot.

44) Rail Grade -- This option is usually a private treaty sale. Cattle are slaughtered and the carcasses are graded for quality and priced according to the different grades. The producer sells directly to the packer and is paid according to the weight and grade of the carcass.

45) Short-Keep Cattle -- Often refer to heavy feeders bought and placed on a high-energy ration; weights and days on feed (often 100 days or less) are determined by end-market requirements.

46) Short Yearlings -- Cattle placed on feed after weaned. Usually placed on feed from March to July and fed for 120 to 160 days. See also Yearlings or Long Yearlings.

47) Shrink -- See Pencil Shrink or Inventory Gain/Loss

48) Soggy/Fleshy Cattle -- Cattle that are fleshy or overly conditioned from a backgrounding or growing operation.

49) Stag -- A term used to describe cattle that have been improperly castrated.

50) Steam Flaking -- Grain processing method in which grain is subjected to steaming before rolling or flaking.

51) Step-ups -- The rations used to acclimate cattle to high-energy grain diets. The length of time that cattle are fed these diets varies. Generally, the amount of concentrate is increased gradually. The first week in the feedlot, the cattle may be fed a 45 per cent roughage diet, the second week a 35 per cent roughage diet, etc., until the cattle are on the final finisher. The number of step-up rations varies from yard to yard. Many large commercial yards use 4 to 5 steps. Some smaller yards may use as many as 10.

52) Surfactant -- An additive used to aid in grain processing.

53) Tempering Grain -- The process of adding water to dry grain to increase moisture content to facilitate rolling of grains. See Steam Flaking.

54) Trenbolone Acetate (TBA) -- Active ingredient in some implants approved for use in feedlot finishing cattle.

55) Video Sales -- Cattle are sold by public auction via satellite television that broadcasts videotaped images of the animals on the producers' farms. Producers pay an up-front fee for videotaping and the rest of the commission if the cattle are sold. Buyers participate in the sale by telephone or computer.

56) Warmed-Up Cattle -- Cattle that have been grown in a backgrounding yard before being placed on feed.

57) Wet Distillers Grain -- A by-product of the dry milling (ethanol) industry. Commonly used as an ingredient in feedlots near dry milling plants. Can be produced from a variety of grains (corn, milo, barley, and wheat).

58) Yardage -- Charges incurred each day that the cattle are in the feedlot. These charges vary depending on the lot. Usually calculated on a cents per head per day basis.

59) Yearlings -- Cattle that are placed on feed after one year of age. Usually fed for 80 to 150 days. See also Short Yearlings or Long Yearlings.


Conclusions


Hopefully this will give you some familiarity to many of the words and the language commonly used in the feedyard industry. In the next issue we'll discuss the mechanics of feeding cattle and some ways that smaller producers can become involved.

Dr. Steve Blezinger is and nutritional and management consultant with an office in Sulphur Springs Texas. He can be reached at Route 4 Box 89 Sulphur Springs, TX 75482, by phone at (903) 885-7992 or by e-mail at [email protected]."

Also, for your enlightment Al Gore never said he discovered the
internet. But, I remind you that George Bush did say that Iraq had weapons of mass distruction and that was the reason for attacking Iraq. We haven't found them yet...and I must say that after this period of time and number of American lives lost...I seriously doubt if we will find them in Iraq.

Should you have other basic questions please let us know.
 
Well anti-freeze if you live long enough you find out you are not near as smart as you think you are. Hey Craig and others that were as dumb as Camp and I ya'll need to read old Anti-freeze's post to find out how stupid we all are. Old Camp kinda poured you in a bottle on that fuel thread thought you might try stir garabage somewhere else eh.
Hey Preston this was Craigs reply over a year ago you might want to try this at his salebarn.

Allright, I'm comming to Campground's defense. Untill now I've never, in all my entire put-together life, heard the term heiferette. I did a Google search and I do see that it appears to be a legitimate (though rare) word. I feel safe in stating that heiferette is either a yankee term or an English (as in England) term. Nobody, and I mean nobody, in Texas or the South as far as I know, has ever uttered the term heiferette. In fact, if you used that term on an honest to goodness ranch or in a salebarn around here, you would probably have to get in one or two fistfights to prove your hetrosexuality.

Craig-TX
 
Prestone,
You are so far out of your league, with your comments. I've been to plenty of sales in Kentucky, and not at one have I ever heard the term "Heiferette" Plainly not a Cattlemans' term.
You need to try to stop being so "Text Book" smart, and prove to all of us you've had some on the job experiences with Cattle. Maybe, there's a local fellow that would let you "Intern" for a while. A long while.When you get done there, come back and share your real Cattle knowledge with us.That's if you really learn anything. ;-)
 
Can't resist anymore. I've been in the cattle business for almost 40 years and have heard the term heiferette used many times. It is not a term that is used just in the north since I have heard it used in places such as Kentucky, Tennessee, Missouri, Arkansas, as well as many western states. So come guys get off it heiferette is as old as dirt.
 
there is no text book way in the cattle business. never has been or will be.if you listen to books youll go broke. scott
 
bigbull338":2ajzj3ps said:
there is no text book way in the cattle business. never has been or will be.if you listen to books youll go broke. scott

Bull how correct you are, I started this thread a year ago as I had never heard the term in my dark corner of the world. I have not been the cattle business near as long as some on this board, and was amazed after buying cattle all over the state and southeast I had never heard the term.
Prestone throw rocks at me as well because I had no idea where the term came from either. I freely admit when I have no knowledge of a subject unlike some of the cut and pasters who want you to think they know everthing.
There is a handful of real cattlemen on this board, Thank goodness we have them for advice like the Ollie. Frenchie ,Bama ,Mike ,Texan ,La4 ,Craig, Bez, Crowder,Caustic ,BB338 ,TLC ,Springer, Dun ,CRR, Beefy , Wewild. Man O man do we have some cowgals I will put up against anyone Cert herf, Bulllady, txag, Cherokee, Cattle Annie.
I know I missed some one and I apologize.
There are a ton of hobby ranchers on this board like myself that have good city jobs that raise cattle. Many of these make some great contributions.
There is a quite a few newbies here, that add great value by the questions they ask. Last we a few that really don't bring a lot of value, luckly it doesn't take long to call the roll in the class .
 
This forum covers the world, terminology differences are huge from region to region, any one without cranial, inversion would realize that.
 
camp you hitt the bull right tween the horns on that 1.it doesmt matter if your a seasoned cattleman weekend farmer hobby farmer or kid.we can all learm from an help eachother. scott
 
Thanks Mr. Preston.
I'll be the first to admit I'm no expert on cattle. I'm not trying to be smart. Until I got the clarification I thought a heiferette was a little baby "Dallas Cowboys Cheerleader". Now I realize I'm broke out with them. So it's all good!

fitz.
 
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