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Dry Corn Gluten Feed

Pickles Dillman

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Is anyone else feeding this? This is my first time feeding this and my weened calves have really put on the gain far more than I thought they would. Any do's and dont's on feeding this product? I'm paying $149.80 a ton and that seem like a reasonable price to me for the results I'm seeing.
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Here is what we feed.

71% corn gluten
15% cracked corn
12% ground corn
2% cane molasses


I give it to the freezer beefs free choice from weaning until about 11 months old then I send em to slaughter. I feed it to heifers to but I had feed it in the trough and weigh it out. They get worked up to about 2% or less of their body weight and are held there until around yearling weight. They are fed free choice bermuda grass hay along with this.
 

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The only problems with it is the squirts they get and there is somehting that it is either real high in or real low in that needs to be adjusted for.
 

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Dry CGF contains about double the needed sulfur as well as an extremely high level of phosphorus and hardly any calcium so I wouldn't feed it as a high % of the total ration. Also the quality of the corn gluten can vary tremendously with crude protein ranging from 18% to 28%....Also watch for dark colored "over processed" scorched smelling CGF. The quality of it will always be low.
 

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What Dun said. The lack of calcium can cause major problems with the joints and bones.
Here it costs $80 per ton this week plus delivery. No one here feeds it straight.
 

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DDG grain hangs up in my gravity box, so I an thinking about painting it with no slip. I see more people using corn gluten recently because they can buy it pelleted.

With dry distillers listed at 99 % TDN, and corn gluten listed at 80 % TDN, - - is a difference in value in your area?
 

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It may be a case of bridging in the feeder that's causing the problem. Pelleted stuff still bridges a little but nothing like fine stuff does
 

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Stocker Steve":1rwfycfi said:
DDG grain hangs up in my gravity box, so I an thinking about painting it with no slip. I see more people using corn gluten recently because they can buy it pelleted.

With dry distillers listed at 99 % TDN, and corn gluten listed at 80 % TDN, - - is a difference in value in your area?

Steve, DDG does not have a TDN that high. That must be on a 100% dry matter basis. Regardless unless the DDG is grossly overpriced I prefer it over CGF.
 

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mattyboy":r7s2mdag said:
corn gluten / soyhull pellets 50/50 works good for me.


I've seen several folks on here comment about using that product. Personally I'd prefer 1 part CGF and 2 parts soyhulls to lower the protein and also reduce risk of other problems.
 

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I've seen several folks on here comment about using that product. Personally I'd prefer 1 part CGF and 2 parts soyhulls to lower the protein and also reduce risk of other problems.

Last year I just used soyhull pellets. This year I wanted to add a little protein...might be to much. I will probably find out the hard way. :shock:
 

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mattyboy":2un4ss66 said:
corn gluten / soyhull pellets 50/50 works good for me.
mattyboy":2un4ss66 said:
Last year I just used soyhull pellets. This year I wanted to add a little protein...might be to much. I will probably find out the hard way. :shock:
So which is it? You first said 50/50 works great and now you say you haven't used that combo yet?
 

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mattyboy":1kflio3x said:
I've seen several folks on here comment about using that product. Personally I'd prefer 1 part CGF and 2 parts soyhulls to lower the protein and also reduce risk of other problems.

Last year I just used soyhull pellets. This year I wanted to add a little protein...might be to much. I will probably find out the hard way. :shock:

Probably just a little more crude protein than they need but they'll discharge that as well. ;-) They'll be ok. As I said, there seems to be quite a few folks that are feeding the CGF/Soyhull mix without short term problems anyway.
 

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I feed straight DDG to my cows at a rate of 3lbs per cow after calving. We didn't need to feed any extra protein prior to calving this year. Right now we still have a few cows in the lot that get a 50/50 of DDG and corn. I'l feed it, never had a problem with it either
 

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I believe I have posted this in another post?
Here's what we feed to all our herd, all ages, including flushing cows.

2900 lbs corn gluten pellets
2250lbs corn - ground between cracked and fine
750 lbs whole oats
2900lbs soy hulls
200lbs wet molasses - energy and control dust
200 lbs diamond yeast - improve digestion
100lbs limestone - protect bones
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9300lbs feed @$815 delivered (May 2010)

Pasture females receive no feed, just their grass. Creep feed is controlled and gradually increased to 15-20lbs per head by weaning time. Adjusted according to intake, and body condition. We have never had any problems with this feed.
Val
 

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vclavin":1et5t0u4 said:
I believe I have posted this in another post?
Here's what we feed to all our herd, all ages, including flushing cows.

2900 lbs corn gluten pellets
2250lbs corn - ground between cracked and fine
750 lbs whole oats
2900lbs soy hulls
200lbs wet molasses - energy and control dust
200 lbs diamond yeast - improve digestion
100lbs limestone - protect bones
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9300lbs feed @$815 delivered (May 2010)

Pasture females receive no feed, just their grass. Creep feed is controlled and gradually increased to 15-20lbs per head by weaning time. Adjusted according to intake, and body condition. We have never had any problems with this feed.
Val
Do you really feed yeast at that high a rate? I use Diamond V XP yeast in my premix for the dairy cows and its inclusion rate is 2.7 pounds per ton.
 

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novaman":208d9k5b said:
vclavin":208d9k5b said:
I believe I have posted this in another post?
Here's what we feed to all our herd, all ages, including flushing cows.

2900 lbs corn gluten pellets
2250lbs corn - ground between cracked and fine
750 lbs whole oats
2900lbs soy hulls
200lbs wet molasses - energy and control dust
200 lbs diamond yeast - improve digestion
100lbs limestone - protect bones
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9300lbs feed @$815 delivered (May 2010)

Pasture females receive no feed, just their grass. Creep feed is controlled and gradually increased to 15-20lbs per head by weaning time. Adjusted according to intake, and body condition. We have never had any problems with this feed.
Val
Do you really feed yeast at that high a rate? I use Diamond V XP yeast in my premix for the dairy cows and its inclusion rate is 2.7 pounds per ton.


2 1/2 oz per head per day recommended. 200 lbs. in 4 1/2 tons of feed is pretty excessive even if you're just using the regular old Diamond V...Unless.....the feeding rate of the feed "per head per day" is very low...same for molasses....very expensive dust control agent and energy level is negligible. How long does the 9300 lbs. of mixed feed last?
 

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Tops is 15-20lbs per hefad on growing bulls/heifers. 2-4 lbs on flushing cows and starting calves. Diamond yeast amount was the Old amount - sorry- it is now 1/2 that amount. Feed company figured the yeast amount based on feed rate and manufactured recommendations. Our problem is getting the mic to stay mixed in the bulk bin feeder. It lasts amount 1-2 months depending on who is being fed. The mix was adjusted by a program the beef specialist for our area uses. Growing bulls gain around 3lbs a day on mix and free choice hay. Heifers gain around 2lbs a day and only receive 5lbs mix. Feed is divided n half and given twice a day.
Valerie
 
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