difference in pneumonias??

[jt]

can someone educate me a little on the different pneumonias? viral and bacterial?

are they treated the same? is one more contagious than the other? difference in symptoms?? etc,etc


thanks

jt

 

[jkwilson]

Bacterial is treated with antibiotics. They are not effective on viral.

 

[certherfbeef]

Hey jt. This is a good question. Here is a link to the merck vet manual. It will take you right to the 4 types of penmonia they have listed. http://www.merckvetmanual.com/mvm/index.jsp?cfile=htm/bc/toc_121200.htm
again, might have to paste to the browser. Computer is being cantankerious.

There is too much to copy and paste but is worth a bookmark I believe.

 

[jt]

Hey jt. This is a good question. Here is a link to the merck vet manual. It will take you right to the 4 types of penmonia they have listed. http://www.merckvetmanual.com/mvm/index.jsp?cfile=htm/bc/toc_121200.htm
again, might have to paste to the browser. Computer is being cantankerious.

There is too much to copy and paste but is worth a bookmark I believe.

ok thanks, i will take a look

jt

 

[jt]

certherbeef,

couldnt make it work, but i will try it again later..

thanks

jt

 

[certherfbeef]

certherbeef,

couldnt make it work, but i will try it again later..

thanks

jt

copy and paste the link to the browser. For some reason I can't get it to link right from ct anymore.

 

[jt]

thanks, i'm slow, but i think i found it...
:lol:


jt

 

[Rafter E]

http://www.vetmed.wsu.edu/courses-jmgay/VMS36104.htm

 

[jt]

Bacterial is treated with antibiotics. They are not effective on viral.

i will admit... alot of what i read in the vet manuals is like greek to me... and the remedy given for viral pneumonia seems to be preventitive ... to vaccinate... but what if one gets it anyway, and antibiotics wont work... so what is the treatment???

do you just let it run its course? if so, i suppose they will finally get over it??

my reason for asking is, i have a cow that the vet said had pneumonia, doctored her like he said and then some. i have done everything i know to do to her, but she still has a raspy breathing.

if you didnt hear this cow breathing, you would never look at her and tell she was sick except for rare occasions when she has an extra difficult time breathing... she will every so often, have her tongue hanging out while she is breathing..

i know that is not right, and i have only noticed this 2-3 times in the time frame that i have noticed something was wrong with her... say about 3 weeks or so.

i have always been able to doctor one back to health on my own or with my vets help, but this one is stumping me.

one other note... 2-3 times also, i have noticed just a small amount of blood coming from one of her nostrils.

i am starting to wonder if cows just have simple old sinus problems sometimes???

any advice appreciated...

thanks

jt

 

[Linda]

With viral pneumonia, the only real treatment is supportive care, which means keep the animal hydrated, in a protective environment, offer plenty of fresh food, and treat any symptoms you see. The animal's own immune system has to learn to recognize the virus, then form antibodies to that particular virus so it can kill off the virus.

There are probably as many forms of viral pneumonia as there are viruses. Viruses are always mutating, too, so the immune system has to adjust from year to year.

Sometimes antibiotics are given in the case of a viral infection. The rationale behind that is the theory that few animals have only one infection at a time. The body is always fighting off infection. When an animal is sick, additional opportunistic bacteria often attack with a vengeance. An animal is often fighting as many as three infectious agents at a time. An antibiotic will help the animal fight any opportunistic bacteria, which lessens the load on its immune system and allows the animal more strength to fight the virus.

Any infection of the lungs or respiratory tract can damage those tissues. The only time I've heard raspy breathing was when our herd came down with Diptheria. Several of them were left with raspy breathing, although they were perfectly healthy in every other way and went on to bear many nice calves.

As for the blood coming out of your cow's nose, I'd make another appointment with the vet. It's possible something entirely unrelated is causing the bleeding.

Having her tongue hanging out along with raspy breathing may mean she is in serious trouble. I wonder if her heart may have been weakened by the infection, causing fluid to build up in her lungs.

 

[jt]

thanks linda... i am off tomorrow and that was my plans first thing when the vet office opens..

jt

 

[jt]

update... to make a long story short... my vet said he really didnt know what her problem was and that with everything i have done for her that i probably should just cull her. he said some cows develope chronic problems and get cancers and lung problems that they will never recover from.

thanks for the replies..

jt

 

[Medic24]

Good luck to you o this cow JT! :cboy:

 

[jt]

Good luck to you o this cow JT! :cboy:

thanks medic, but unless something great happens with her, i am going to cull her when it gets cooler. as hot as it is and since she has a 3 month old calf, i am going to let her raise that calf (assuming she lives) and cull her when the weather gets cooler.

as hot as it is, i am afraid it would stress her too much to load and haul her right now, and she has a very nice bull calf.

thanks

jt