S&S Farms
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If you have any cull cows to market I would be gettting it done soon. If the dairy buyout does happen expect the cull cow market to get cut in half price wise.
I dont know much about dairy cows but if some gov guy told me I had to cull 15% of my beef herd there might be a fight.bigbull338":2ybwtxos said:the CWT doesnt do a dang bit of good.because the dairies that are left just add more cows.an that makes up for what milk was taken off the market.the only thing that would work is a mandatory culling rate.an all of the dairies big or small has to follow it.say a 15% cull rate every year.plus your normal cull rate.wich means youd be culling your low producers your kicking cows your wild cows your 3 teated cows.
bigbull338 said:the CWT doesnt do a dang bit of good.because the dairies that are left just add more cows.an that makes up for what milk was taken off the market.the only thing that would work is a mandatory culling rate.an all of the dairies big or small has to follow it.say a 15% cull rate every year.plus your normal cull rate.wich means youd be culling your low producers your kicking cows your wild cows your 3 teated cows.
mnmtranching":1xl2qhf8 said:Why don't they just slow down the import of low quality commercial beef for a few months?
Because----------- That makes sense !!!!! :tiphat:mnmtranching":1bw82x0i said:Why don't they just slow down the import of low quality commercial beef for a few months?
denoginnizer":3b4zqmww said:I dont know much about dairy cows but if some gov guy told me I had to cull 15% of my beef herd there might be a fight.bigbull338":3b4zqmww said:the CWT doesnt do a dang bit of good.because the dairies that are left just add more cows.an that makes up for what milk was taken off the market.the only thing that would work is a mandatory culling rate.an all of the dairies big or small has to follow it.say a 15% cull rate every year.plus your normal cull rate.wich means youd be culling your low producers your kicking cows your wild cows your 3 teated cows.
Alberta farmer said:I think the quota for a single cow is now about $35K....so if you want to build a small 100 cow dairy the quota will cost you $3.5 million, before you even buy any cows or buildings! quote]
Maybe it is a "been there, done that" sort of a deal. But if I had the 3.5 million, I darn sure wouldn't be spending it on a bunch of cows...of any kind.
People voted for "CHANGE". With any luck they'll leave a little change in our pockets to junglenovaman":2o238lb8 said:The government has taken a simple supply/demand market and mottled it all up. With subsidies and all the other interferences generated by the government there is no way for the market to control supply and demand. If there were some way to eliminate every subsidy, the end result would be a market that would have better control of supply and demand and these huge price swings wouldn't be an issue. Instead we are going the opposite direction with more and more government support being applied. Now they are talking about implementing a supply management program. This is a complete joke. It appears that nobody in Washington and/or all the high places realizes how detrimental this would be. Of course these days, the dumber and more absurd something sounds the better the chance that it will be enacted.
novaman":24w8957c said:I was surprised to see another round of herd retirements this quickly. It is impossible for me to say but in my opinion we are reaching the point that most of the dairymen sitting on the fence as to whether they should quit or not have already been taken out. It would seem this round wouldn't be as big as the last round.
Grazing daries here in East Texas will normally cull 15% - 20%. The confinement daries out in the panhandle and New Mexico will have cull rates of 30% or more. The only way to get prices up is to produce less which means fewer cows are needed. Most dairymen could cull the bottom 5% of their herd and barely notice the drop in bulk tank readings.TexasBred":37zxiw30 said:denoginnizer":37zxiw30 said:I dont know much about dairy cows but if some gov guy told me I had to cull 15% of my beef herd there might be a fight.bigbull338":37zxiw30 said:the CWT doesnt do a dang bit of good.because the dairies that are left just add more cows.an that makes up for what milk was taken off the market.the only thing that would work is a mandatory culling rate.an all of the dairies big or small has to follow it.say a 15% cull rate every year.plus your normal cull rate.wich means youd be culling your low producers your kicking cows your wild cows your 3 teated cows.
Dairy culling rates in this part of the country will run from 25 to 35% year end and year out.
While you are right, this sort of statement implies that the answer to this problem is simple. There is no doubt that cutting down on supply will result in higher prices. However, it seems very few people understand how difficult it is to simply "flip the switch". The spike in price in '07 stimulated a sharp increase in production in order to meet increased demands. Obviously that demand has dried up, but you can't just cut production in a week or even a year. It takes time for corrections in production to occur. The point I'm trying make is that while cutting production to stimulate price increase is a positive move, we must also work to restore demand. I firmly believe that had it not been for this recession we would be cruising at a decent price right now.BC":1982sk11 said:The only way to get prices up is to produce less which means fewer cows are needed.
Again you are right, but again I don't necessarily agree that this is the way to go. Under normal circumstances the bottom 5% would still likely be making a profit in a well managed herd. Just because they are on the bottom doesn't mean they are garbage. When prices return those 5% would be nice to have around. Some may think my thinking is greedy and while it seems that might be so, I firmly believe in my plan. Replacements aren't overly high priced right now but they still don't come "cheap".BC":1982sk11 said:Most dairymen could cull the bottom 5% of their herd and barely notice the drop in bulk tank readings.