1982vett
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Sold to the highest bidder…..tell him when and where you take it and let the bidding begin. He can buy it or not. I believe that's how it works.
2000 - 2100 lb bulls are selling for 92- 98 cents lb in Minnesota sale barnsWhat's the average butcher/cull bull going for in your area?
Had every intention of just taking him to the sale barn, but a guy that bought some of my bred cows last years wants to buy him (for cull price), then turn around & sell him, also as cull.
It depends on his setup, if he has a small herd or is just starting out its hard to justify the more expensive younger bulls for 10-15 cows. I have done it before with good success but its also a risk. I bought a 6yo for $1800 from a guy down the road that was headed to the sale barn, used him for 90 days and sold him for a small profit (very small) at the sell barn. I was tickled to dead cause the only thing it cost me was time and grass, he could have broken a leg or whatever and i would have been out of luck but that happens with young bulls too.I'm surprised anyone would want a 6 year old used bull for breeding. Along with age, comes several other problems like the fighting you mentioned. That bull would only sell here as a kill bull.
Weigh up bulls are bringing $1.00/lb. Older bulls can a lot of times hit $2000 for an old bull! Keep in mind just how much hay and old bull eats.What's the average butcher/cull bull going for in your area?
As much as it pains me, it's time to sell Johnson. He's only 6 but his BSE wasn't great, I need new genetics and one of my other bulls is getting old enough/big enough to challenge him and they fight all the time - one of them is going to get hurt BAD (they've already busted through the fence, which even has a row of cattle panels for extra support, and ended out on the road).
Had every intention of just taking him to the sale barn, but a guy that bought some of my bred cows last years wants to buy him (for cull price), then turn around & sell him, also as cull. Fine with me and my vet assured us both that he definitely still has game. I called the owner of our local sale barn and he said last weeks' butcher bulls were .80 on the low end ( for ancient, scraggly bulls) and the top bid was .94. He knows my stock and they're fully vaccinated, well taken care of, and suggested .90 for Johnson. Vet put him at a solid 2200 lbs. at his BSE, so I said I'd sell him for .87/$1914, which is the average of the high/low last week.
Seems the potential buyer was expecting to pay substantially less and may not have the funds available. Am I being unreasonable?
The commission is often worth it to get a fair market price.Fortunately, the sale barn is all of 20-25 minutes away and wouldn't haul him until the morning of the sale. But yeah, there's the commission, which isn't huge but . . .
Potential buyer only has a few cows & 2 heifers and he bought some steers sired by the bull last year. Johnson is super calving ease and throws nice stock. Plus, he's probably the most docile bull I've ever owned; the fighting is only because one of my younger bulls is challenging him. Big boy had an abscess the size of Dallas last year, the result of aforementioned fighting, and let me cut it open in the middle of the pasture with only a bowl of cubes to keep him occupied. Really hate to get rid of him, but it's part of having a cow/calf operation.I'm surprised anyone would want a 6 year old used bull for breeding. Along with age, comes several other problems like the fighting you mentioned. That bull would only sell here as a kill bull.
Your a real Trooper TC, you'll have a go at anything.Potential buyer only has a few cows & 2 heifers and he bought some steers sired by the bull last year. Johnson is super calving ease and throws nice stock. Plus, he's probably the most docile bull I've ever owned; the fighting is only because one of my younger bulls is challenging him. Big boy had an abscess the size of Dallas last year, the result of aforementioned fighting, and let me cut it open in the middle of the pasture with only a bowl of cubes to keep him occupied. Really hate to get rid of him, but it's part of having a cow/calf operation.
Selling and buying used bulls is challenging. Price expectations run all the way from low end kill price to yearling auction price. Then how does it play if there are open cows? I gave a neighbor a deal on a proven bull and then he complained that 100% of his sales barn cows did not settle...Vet put him at a solid 2200 lbs. at his BSE, so I said I'd sell him for .87/$1914, which is the average of the high/low last week.
Seems the potential buyer was expecting to pay substantially less and may not have the funds available. Am I being unreasonable?
In my initial post, I stated my vet assured me the bull still has game and I've provided my vet's contact info to the potential buyer. Johnson actually should have another good year, but again, I can't keep him with my other bulls anymore - one of them is going to get seriously hurt. Plus, he'd probably be breeding some of his daughters if I kept him with just the heifers and I need new stock.So your potential buyer wants him for only a few cows with a sun-par BSE? Does he think he'll magically correct at his place, or is he content with potentially open cows by the time he wants to flip him? I guess I don't understand why he wants a bull that is being culled for BSE status...
Sorry-I forgot the rest of the important detailsIn my initial post, I stated my vet assured me the bull still has game and I've provided my vet's contact info to the potential buyer. Johnson actually should have another good year, but again, I can't keep him with my other bulls anymore - one of them is going to get seriously hurt. Plus, he'd probably be breeding some of his daughters if I kept him with just the heifers and I need new stock.
He wants him because he's very happy with the calves he bought last year. Very small operation but doesn't want to AI. The point of the thread was to determine if pricing was accurate/fair. And it appears the market where I'm located is averaging less than what others have stated.
We got him and nobody got hurt lol.Good luck!!!
Actually, to veer way off track again . . . . Found a "present" near the entrance to the ranch this morning. So what did I do? I Facebook shamed the scum, including the attached pic. I'll be darned if a neighbor didn't call me with a complete description of the truck, which they saw with the exact POS loveseat in the back on their way into town last night. My "present" has been disposed of (amazing how easy it was to move with the bale spear) and the eastern part of my county is on the lookout for a red Dodge - that looks almost as bad as the furniture they dumped.I love how this thread went from "cull bull$$"
To "how can I help my neighbor?"
Lots of good folks around still!