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<blockquote data-quote="Anonymous" data-source="post: 13628"><p>If they are really well grown out heifers I wouldn't worry much about even using an average for the black Angus breed BW bull. Personally I would use a very high marbling bull and not worry about ribeye too much and pay attention to muscle, I wouldn't want to give away too much of the muscle from the two continental breeds. If you do a Reproductive condition scheck of the heifers, have the vet or however does it, also check for pelvic dimensions, the actual pevlic measuring tool/device isn't required. Whoever does it sould have been in enough heifers to give you a rough idea of the size, adequate, too small, huge, whatever. Of our F1 Red Angus-Gelbvieh heifers, one is about a FS 6.5 to other FS 5, the 6.5 has a smaller pelvic opening, so you can't tell by the outside. She is still bigger then the pure angus heifers, just smaller then her sisters. Strange We always use calving ease bulls even onm the mature cows, there are enough calving ease bulls with way above average growth to choose from. It seems that even many of the heavy BW bulls don't have that much better WW and YW or muscle then some of the lighter BW bulls. With a young bull it's always a little bit of a crap-shoot, they may be and most of them are, the type that the low EPD numbers and their later high accuracy numbers are pretty close. Every once in a while you get one that just doesn't breed to his EPDs. Remember, sometimes free advice isn't worth as much as you pay for it.</p><p></p><p>dunmovin farms</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Anonymous, post: 13628"] If they are really well grown out heifers I wouldn't worry much about even using an average for the black Angus breed BW bull. Personally I would use a very high marbling bull and not worry about ribeye too much and pay attention to muscle, I wouldn't want to give away too much of the muscle from the two continental breeds. If you do a Reproductive condition scheck of the heifers, have the vet or however does it, also check for pelvic dimensions, the actual pevlic measuring tool/device isn't required. Whoever does it sould have been in enough heifers to give you a rough idea of the size, adequate, too small, huge, whatever. Of our F1 Red Angus-Gelbvieh heifers, one is about a FS 6.5 to other FS 5, the 6.5 has a smaller pelvic opening, so you can't tell by the outside. She is still bigger then the pure angus heifers, just smaller then her sisters. Strange We always use calving ease bulls even onm the mature cows, there are enough calving ease bulls with way above average growth to choose from. It seems that even many of the heavy BW bulls don't have that much better WW and YW or muscle then some of the lighter BW bulls. With a young bull it's always a little bit of a crap-shoot, they may be and most of them are, the type that the low EPD numbers and their later high accuracy numbers are pretty close. Every once in a while you get one that just doesn't breed to his EPDs. Remember, sometimes free advice isn't worth as much as you pay for it. dunmovin farms [/QUOTE]
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