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Where is all this fraud news coming from??? OAN? There has yet to be one shred of proof of any election fraud. Well over 40 Federal Court cases have been dismissed so far. Not one has had any merit or proof.

What Trump and the others in his camp say is not "proof". Gulliani even stated in Court that they had NO evidence of fraud.
Giuliani in Public: 'It's a Fraud.' Giuliani in Court: 'This Is Not a Fraud Case.'

Bill Barr, Trump's Attorney General, no evidence of Fraud.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/william-barr-doj-fbi-voter-fraud-2020-election

I understand if someone is a Trump supporter and votes and supports him. But to buy into this whole made up "rigged" election is nothing more than an attempt to undermine our democracy.
So whats wrong with OAN? The MSM just tells us what they want us to know.
 
i have spoken to several people in the last few months that have had their D levels tested and every single one of them was low and most of them were middle age. The older we get the less efficient our skin is in making Vitamin D. So i think about the elderly who are the most vulnerable to the virus are probably severely low in Vitamin D.
The elderly are the most vulnerable no matter what is going around. That's part of you are going to die.
 
You may be right.......but obviously we get our news from different sources. From what I read people are coming out of the woodwork exposing election fraud. Even the Gov. of GA is now getting on board after seeing the video of the ballots in suitcases being pulled out from under the table to be counted late at night after every one was sent home.
I wouldn't come near as close to believing it if it weren't almost a media blackout on it.
They are definitely not the watchdog intended by the Bill of Rights.
If they were they would be overturning ever rock looking for corruption no matter the players instead of a blind eye.
It's almost like watching the horror version of the Wizard of Oz.
 
Where is all this fraud news coming from??? OAN? There has yet to be one shred of proof of any election fraud. Well over 40 Federal Court cases have been dismissed so far. Not one has had any merit or proof.

What Trump and the others in his camp say is not "proof". Gulliani even stated in Court that they had NO evidence of fraud.
Giuliani in Public: 'It's a Fraud.' Giuliani in Court: 'This Is Not a Fraud Case.'

Bill Barr, Trump's Attorney General, no evidence of Fraud.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/william-barr-doj-fbi-voter-fraud-2020-election

I understand if someone is a Trump supporter and votes and supports him. But to buy into this whole made up "rigged" election is nothing more than an attempt to undermine our democracy.
Almost as flimsy as the Russia hoax in other words?
 
I get where he is coming from.
I really don't care what you do in Canada to Zimbabwe.
I have felt we all need to be like the old Hank song, especially in America being the world police

Almost as flimsy as the Russia hoax in other words?
Almost as flimsy as the Russia hoax in other words?
You can't say that TT, I mean cmon, it waisted so much tax dollars for that BS, but the sheep went along with it, sad, just be careful we don't disturb the ground north of us, what a joke, we just have to put our big boy pants on.
 
i have spoken to several people in the last few months that have had their D levels tested and every single one of them was low and most of them were middle age. The older we get the less efficient our skin is in making Vitamin D. So i think about the elderly who are the most vulnerable to the virus are probably severely low in Vitamin D.
My D was tested along with testing B12 and both were very low. Have taken a B12 shot and a Vitamin D pill every week and I can already tell the difference
 
If the vaccine works what does it matter if someone doesn't want to take it. As long as you take your medicine your good. Right?.....if it actually works.
Silver said:
"If it's 95% effective as they say it is then 5% of the elderly and healthcare workers would still be at risk."

That's not exactly what 95% efficacy means. There is efficacy and effectiveness and they don't mean the same thing. A vaccine will only save a single life. Vaccine programs save millions of lives and if the program is ineffective because a large slice of the people won't get it, then the effectiveness is greatly lessened. The only reason smallpox and polio were eradicated to the degree they were was not because of the efficacy of the vaccine, but because of the effectiveness of those 2 vaccine programs coupled with the efficacy.

An estimated 86% of the world's population has been vaccinated for polio.
The smallpox vaccine program shot for and came close to 80% via mass vaccination and followed that with ring vaccination protocols to control outbreaks (mostly in India) until it was declared eradicated globally.
 
Do people really fall for these scam sites? There's a sucker born every minute, I guess.
There is so much that is not known about the covid-19 vaccine and there are many different theories. Most vaccines take years to develop and test and know what the side effects may be. This vaccine has been rushed and no one knows how it will perform or what side effects may or may not happen.

Individuals will need to make their own choice as to get it or not!
 
You are just lucky I am an ethical person and let you hang on to your $500. ;)

i paid up when I bet against Trump in 2016 and will again if it is determined to my satisfaction that he lost in an honest election this time around. As I recall however, our wager was not fully consummated due to some weird hang up you have over only betting food not money.
 
i paid up when I bet against Trump in 2016 and will again if it is determined to my satisfaction that he lost in an honest election this time around. As I recall however, our wager was not fully consummated due to some weird hang up you have over only betting food not money.
No, you are correct, it was not consummated. I don't bet money. I was just giving you a hard time.
 
Just to clarify a few things. Doctors can no longer be given anything other than lunch by pharmaceutical company's as they pitch a medicine. Not even so much as a ballpoint pen with a drug name on it. MOST doctors really want to try and get you to a greater level of overall health and prescribe less medication. Most people now would rather take a pill than put forth any effort. So many patients walk into an office with a list of demands for things they want to be prescribed it is ridiculous. Thanks to internet genius's most think they know better than med school and 20 yrs. of practice. Truth is prescriptions are a pain in the azz and a liability depending on the product that most doctors would prefer to avoid. That said the public as a whole is anxious, overweight and prefers Big Macs to broccoli.

As I have said before with this vaccine and any other it will take both groups takers and non takers for it to be successful. You need a broad base to study efficacy and risks on both sides. You should always be leery of new vaccines especially ones developed at warp speed. Like most things it is a decision that should be decided by an individual and their Dr. weighing risks and rewards.

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Do people really fall for these scam sites? There's a sucker born every minute, I guess.
Have you ever heard of the Georgia Guide Stones? If not, a simple internet search will bring it up.
Not fiction....written in stone in 8 languages.....guide for the people and the earth.....it says to maintain a population of 500,000,000 or less. So according to that about 6.5 billion people have gotta go.
Apparently there is a group of people who would like to bring this to pass.
 
In the general publics eyes ....doctors are "gods". What ever my doctor says etc. etc. There are good doctors, but very few people think outside the box of conventional medicine.
 
So many patients walk into an office with a list off demands for things they want to be prescribed it is ridiculous. Thanks to internet genius's most think they know better than med school and 20 yrs. of practice.
My daughter is a veterinarian. Magna Cum Laude DVM. Received that just days after her 23rd birthday. It is possible. Board certified. She does a thorough exam and workup and discusses her recommendations with the owner. Then some will call back with "I was reading about that medicine and the side effects. I think "fluffy" should get "xyz" medicine". She will politely explain how that medicine is not appropriate, or not the best choice, or doesn't fit with some other med or condition the animal has. Some will still persist and try to debate the issue based on their 1 hour internet research. Sort of a waste of time for owner and doctor. I think you are correct. The internet has made all of us "experts" on any subject. Good to be informed, but at some point, we have to trust the experts. If we could only agree on who the experts are.
 
Some of you were mentioning the vaccine, this popped on a feed tonight:

https://healthandmoneynews.wordpres...esearch-covid-vaccine-is-female-sterilization
A little research on Dr. Wolfgang Wodarg "seems" to indicate that he prefers political activism over the doctoring- being a member of the german socialist party. If this report is correct - Looks like those who take the vaccine will become sterile and their political philosophy will disappear as they eventually die off with no offspring. Those who do not take the vaccine will repopulate the earth - probably with similar philosophy. :)
 
There are good doctors out there, but they're far and few between. Most are too lazy to do their own research or actually listen to patients. Most I've been to want you to tell them what your diagnosis is and what you need, I'm like " hell, what am I paying you for"? Most of the time the pharmacist could've just seen you instead of the dr. I've talked to doctors I've seen in the past about diet and remedies and usually they tell me " oh those don't work". One actually told me " prescriptions are good for you " after I told her I don't like to take medicine. Most of the problem is they're trying to see too many patients a day, because most Americans run to the dr over every little thing which is why health care and insurance are so high.
 

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