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Good post. I don't fundamentally disagree with the principle of requiring voters to have some civic understanding, but I think it's very difficult if not impossible to implement fairly. Who decides what is essential knowledge and what is not? How do we prevent it from becoming a political weapon? We've already determined that poll taxes and literacy tests for voting rights are unconstitutional, for good reason.
OK, we can't hold the voters to a higher standard, I guess. What about the candidates? Can we require them to have a basic understanding of facts and economics? That would cull out a lot of unfit candidates, I think. Remember, there are some very good people on both sides, but most of those don't run. :)
 

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Or the voters split the ticket because they just don't like Trump.
I agree that the anger and hate some folks have for Trump would cause them to vote for a different candidate based on personality rather than what will be better for our country.

Other than personality, character assignations, and other innuendos promoted by the media and the opposing party, what are the policies of the existing president that folks don't like. Never hear why he shouldn't be president based on his ideology on domestic and foreign policy. He has been America first.

Almost everything I pick up has "made in China" on it and he was trying to do something about that. With a new administration don't think the America first ideology will continue and our country will suffer the consequences.
 

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OK, we can't hold the voters to a higher standard, I guess. What about the candidates? Can we require them to have a basic understanding of facts and economics? That would cull out a lot of unfit candidates, I think. Remember, there are some very good people on both sides, but most of those don't run. :)
That's a tough ask when it's all about winning and the audience votes for the guy with the best 3-word chants.
 

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I agree that the anger and hate some folks have for Trump would cause them to vote for a different candidate based on personality rather than what will be better for our country.

Other than personality, character assignations, and other innuendos promoted by the media and the opposing party, what are the policies of the existing president that folks don't like. Never hear why he shouldn't be president based on his ideology on domestic and foreign policy. He has been America first.

Almost everything I pick up has "made in China" on it and he was trying to do something about that. With a new administration don't think the America first ideology will continue and our country will suffer the consequences.
I agree something needs to be done about China and I think this is a well-reasoned argument. But what most Americans don't realize is that they are paying the "tariffs" and not China. Real change needs to take place and it needs to be done by experts that know what they are doing.

By the way, my comment includes the Obama administration, whom I think ignored the China trade deficit problem.

If McConnell continues the obstructionist conduct he has had for the past several years, we are not going to improve.
 

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That's a tough ask when it's all about winning and the audience votes for the guy with the best 3-word chants.
Your answer lends support to the need to require voters to be more knowledgeable, aware of the issues, and able to discern the truth. So, I think we need tests for BOTH the voters and the candidates. :)
 

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As LeRoy so eloquently put it, "If brains were cotton all the democrats combined running for president in 2020 could not gather enough cotton to...........
If anything has been revealed in this series it is the confirmation of schools of opposite political thought. It is becoming evident on who stands where in
the political realm. Most are involved with cattle ( livestock) in one form or another. Some were lucky enough to be born into the enterprise and have
suffured the adversity and blessings of what that entails. A few have been fortunate enough to gather enough money together to invest in a dream.
I submit the first group will be inclined to a humility of heart blessed the recognition of a higher power beyond the local government.
The second group (sincere cattlemen) will tend to look at it more or less as a business (which it is, but not a way of life) and of course, a large mirror.

The old adage of (You can talk about anything but religion and politics!) is a liberal invention designed to keep us blinded and muted to what
is taking place around us.>>>>>>to be continued......................
 

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As LeRoy so eloquently put it, "If brains were cotton all the democrats combined running for president in 2020 could not gather enough cotton to...........
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In these modern times, I have learned that there is a stigma associated with "picking cotton". Not sure why. I grew up "pickin cotton". It was the main crop in my area. The local farmers were influential enough that our local school had "summer school". What that meant is that the school year started in late July and continued until the cotton crop was ready for harvest. Then school was dismissed for 6 weeks in order that the students could "pick cotton". Our local school was the last school in the state to have this schedule. You had a burlap bag to put the cotton in. A folded piece of burlap bag was made into a strap that went over your shoulder like a sash and attached to the burlap bag holding the cotton. Pay was 3 cents per pound. A burlap sheet was placed on the ground and you dumped each bag of your cotton on your sheet. At the end of the day, opposite sides of the sheet were tied together to form a bag. The bag was weighed on a pole with "stillards" - a balance beam mechanism that had a fixed weight that was moved on notches on the the beam until the beam was horizontal. Numbers on the notches revealed the weight. You picked a row at a time. Nobody wanted the row on the top of the terrace since the soil was deeper and more fertile and the plants were taller and harder to pick. You could not keep up with your friends on the adjacent rows. "Pickin cotton" was hard back-breaking work. You made about 2 or 3 dollars per day depending on your productivity. Then the farmers got mechanical cotton pickers - one row pickers that attached on a standard tractor that was driven in reverse to pick the cotton. Glad that my cotton picking days are over. Did anyone else pick cotton? I suspect that tobacco work was even worse.
 

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Neither cotton or tobacco were raised where I grew up. But there was acres of berries. I picked strawberries, raspberries, and blueberries. Each in their season. It started when school let out in the first of June and ran until school started again in early September. If you were a hard working berry picker you might make $180 for working 5 days a week all summer. I was so very happy to get old enough to get out of the berry fields and get a job at the breeder farm for a chicken hatchery. It paid $1.25 an hour to clean chicken houses with a scoop shovel and a wheel barrow. Ten bucks a day!!!! I was rolling in the money.
 

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I suspect that tobacco work was even worse.
Raising tobacco is something I am glad I have to never do again. The cutting of the "baccer" was not nearly as bad as the topping and suckering it. But it sure was nice to have that money at Christmas time.
 

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Haven't you heard?? They are putting something in that vaccine that the new 5G wireless can connect to in order to control peoples minds. A socialist plot I think.....
You do know that Obama had all of the airplanes flying all over world spreading the virus in capsule form so when Trump was elected the capsules would burst and affect people all over the world. I know this to be true because my friends kept talking about the contrails from jets all over the world. Proof you seldom see any contrails any more.
 

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You do know that Obama had all of the airplanes flying all over world spreading the virus in capsule form so when Trump was elected the capsules would burst and affect people all over the world. I know this to be true because my friends kept talking about the contrails from jets all over the world. Proof you seldom see any contrails any more.
The agenda is over!
 

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New York Sherriff's office shut down an indoor party with over 400 attending in Manhattan. Few were wearing masks. It was reported heavy fines will be issued.

IF the CDC statistics and recommendations are correct, then 7 of the 400+ attending will be dead from Covid before Christmas. This event would make an interesting case study and I hope there will be follow up coverage.
 
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The police departments in my County & neighboring county - put out a notice that they would NOT enforce King Cuomo's rule that we could not have more than 10 people for Thanksgiving Dinner.
No tobacco or cotton picking for me - I was born & raised in the city - Pawtucket, Rhode Island. Left when I was 19 and would never go back to "city" life. My family gets out here every chance they can to get away from the city. One of my great nephew's is buying a 30 acre place 2 miles away from me. My nephew that lives with me since my husband died was also born & raised in R.I. He spent 3 summers with us in his pre-teens. I don't know if people that were born & raised in the country life appreciates it as much as a city born person does - but - it is a great life!!!!!
 

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Both the county sheriff and the city police in Baker said were only going to calls of a disturbance. So as long as you weren't in a knock down drag out fight with uncle Floyd in the front yqard you were safe. Some were concerned about the state police as they are under the direction of Queen Kate. But they had all they could do patrolling the freeway.
One little town in Washington (Mossyrock) told Gov Inslee to take a hike. The town council voted to keep everything open. Another popular Lewis county restaurant said enough is enough and opened up to indoor dining. A friend of mine took his son there for breakfast. He said there were several LEO's having breakfast inside while he was there.
 
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