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<blockquote data-quote="SPH" data-source="post: 1409263" data-attributes="member: 20580"><p>The bull has some desirable traits, I like his thickness and I don't think anyone is trying to discredit him other than pointing out that to say that you can't just take 1 type and say that all animals in that breed should look exactly like his type. Like several have stated about this topic - which has lead to some good discussion - I think one of the best comments so far was what JWBrahman said "There is no such thing as a one size fits all type, frame, or breed." I think that statement was about as to the point as anyone can get. A bull like that may do well for certain breeders and in certain areas and markets but not as much in others. The same can be said for probably everyone here that you could take their cattle and move them to the other end of the country furthest away from the environment they were raised in and you are going to find differences in the type of cattle in demand and being raised in those markets/area are not going to mirror where they came from.</p><p></p><p>Anyone who thinks there is such a thing as "one size fits all" type of breeding needs to broaden their views past their own market and environment more. Breeders don't tell the buyers in their market what they should be buying, they listen to what the buyers are telling them about the type they want because ultimately the buyers are the ones you are going to count on to pay the bills and be able to be successful. It's kind of like telling a guy who is looking for a tractor to do heavy field work with that your small chore tractor is of good quality and does a good job for what you need it to do so it should be good for him too. We all know that wouldn't fly, the same type of thinking can be applied to cattle. You probably aren't going to convince a guy looking for a specific type that has done well and had success with that another type is what he should use instead.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SPH, post: 1409263, member: 20580"] The bull has some desirable traits, I like his thickness and I don't think anyone is trying to discredit him other than pointing out that to say that you can't just take 1 type and say that all animals in that breed should look exactly like his type. Like several have stated about this topic - which has lead to some good discussion - I think one of the best comments so far was what JWBrahman said "There is no such thing as a one size fits all type, frame, or breed." I think that statement was about as to the point as anyone can get. A bull like that may do well for certain breeders and in certain areas and markets but not as much in others. The same can be said for probably everyone here that you could take their cattle and move them to the other end of the country furthest away from the environment they were raised in and you are going to find differences in the type of cattle in demand and being raised in those markets/area are not going to mirror where they came from. Anyone who thinks there is such a thing as "one size fits all" type of breeding needs to broaden their views past their own market and environment more. Breeders don't tell the buyers in their market what they should be buying, they listen to what the buyers are telling them about the type they want because ultimately the buyers are the ones you are going to count on to pay the bills and be able to be successful. It's kind of like telling a guy who is looking for a tractor to do heavy field work with that your small chore tractor is of good quality and does a good job for what you need it to do so it should be good for him too. We all know that wouldn't fly, the same type of thinking can be applied to cattle. You probably aren't going to convince a guy looking for a specific type that has done well and had success with that another type is what he should use instead. [/QUOTE]
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