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<blockquote data-quote="WB Angus" data-source="post: 1714904" data-attributes="member: 40323"><p>J+ the hardest part is the waiting game lol. No I think in general you will be very happy. I have went through an AI course but we still have our AI rep and technician do it. Hes just so much more efficient and I have more confidence in him. It works well for us that he is an ABS rep so we order our straws from him and he keeps them in his tank. We order them in Aug or early Sept and breed late November. Thats one reason that ABS special makes a big part of our decision process. There are so many good studs out there that if you stick with the traits you are looking for you will notice your herd moving that direction in time. I do recommend high accuracy proven bulls though as the EPDs are updated weekly and can change drastically in some of the younger unproven studs. Especially once real time data starts getting turned in on them. Like I mentioned the hard part is the wait. Like you we breed at the end Nov and typically start seeing calves the last week of August or 1st week of Sept. Then its a few months of watching them grow to really start seeing if your selection is paying off. For a small operation like us its the best way to use some of the top bulls in the breed. There is no way we could afford to purchase the bulls we use. And we have ended up with some nice sons of these bulls that we either retain for use in clean up or we sell. Each year more and more people can or stop by looking for a bull. We are part of a program here in MO called the "Show Me Select" its a heifer development program put on by the University of Missouri. They have a series of guidelines we producers must follow then they put on i think 7 sales across the state. The sales are put on in the spring and in the fall and are made up of different breeds of commercial and registered stock. You put more effort into producing but we find that the reward is better and we enjoy it too. I think the last couple of years the sale we go to has averaged around $2100-2200 a head. Most of these heifers will be AI bred. Gives those looking for replacements a good opportunity to get quality stock into their herd. And gives us producers a way to market for a better price.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="WB Angus, post: 1714904, member: 40323"] J+ the hardest part is the waiting game lol. No I think in general you will be very happy. I have went through an AI course but we still have our AI rep and technician do it. Hes just so much more efficient and I have more confidence in him. It works well for us that he is an ABS rep so we order our straws from him and he keeps them in his tank. We order them in Aug or early Sept and breed late November. Thats one reason that ABS special makes a big part of our decision process. There are so many good studs out there that if you stick with the traits you are looking for you will notice your herd moving that direction in time. I do recommend high accuracy proven bulls though as the EPDs are updated weekly and can change drastically in some of the younger unproven studs. Especially once real time data starts getting turned in on them. Like I mentioned the hard part is the wait. Like you we breed at the end Nov and typically start seeing calves the last week of August or 1st week of Sept. Then its a few months of watching them grow to really start seeing if your selection is paying off. For a small operation like us its the best way to use some of the top bulls in the breed. There is no way we could afford to purchase the bulls we use. And we have ended up with some nice sons of these bulls that we either retain for use in clean up or we sell. Each year more and more people can or stop by looking for a bull. We are part of a program here in MO called the "Show Me Select" its a heifer development program put on by the University of Missouri. They have a series of guidelines we producers must follow then they put on i think 7 sales across the state. The sales are put on in the spring and in the fall and are made up of different breeds of commercial and registered stock. You put more effort into producing but we find that the reward is better and we enjoy it too. I think the last couple of years the sale we go to has averaged around $2100-2200 a head. Most of these heifers will be AI bred. Gives those looking for replacements a good opportunity to get quality stock into their herd. And gives us producers a way to market for a better price. [/QUOTE]
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