Chiangus Breed

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dun":1mpljdw3 said:
I'm still trying to figure out when and why Ankina became chiangus
These cattle you are talking about are not chianina. The chianina breed came form Italy. They are a breed of their on not a crossbred animal. If you look at Italy on the map the right side of Italy at the top of the boot is where the Chianina Breed came from. They do not look like any other breed.
Chris Howard
FFA Advisor
 
choward2955jd":3h5zy65e said:
dun":3h5zy65e said:
I'm still trying to figure out when and why Ankina became chiangus
These cattle you are talking about are not chianina. The chianina breed came form Italy. They are a breed of their on not a crossbred animal. If you look at Italy on the map the right side of Italy at the top of the boot is where the Chianina Breed came from. They do not look like any other breed.
Chris Howard
FFA Advisor

Before they called chianina angus crosses chiangus they were called Ankina. When and why the name change?
 
dun":1b0aht4u said:
choward2955jd":1b0aht4u said:
dun":1b0aht4u said:
I'm still trying to figure out when and why Ankina became chiangus
These cattle you are talking about are not chianina. The chianina breed came form Italy. They are a breed of their on not a crossbred animal. If you look at Italy on the map the right side of Italy at the top of the boot is where the Chianina Breed came from. They do not look like any other breed.
Chris Howard
FFA Advisor

Before they called chianina angus crosses chiangus they were called Ankina. When and why the name change?

Shucks Dun, I've got a laundry list of name changes. "Brindle" doesn't get used much any more to describe cows.

They usually can come up with some really long names for existing terminology and then give those names acronym.

I'm kind of scared to use "mottled" or any of the other terms I am familiar with any more.
 
backhoeboogie":2w1291xo said:
Shucks Dun, I've got a laundry list of name changes. "Brindle" doesn't get used much any more to describe cows.

They usually can come up with some really long names for existing terminology and then give those names acronym.

I'm kind of scared to use "mottled" or any of the other terms I am familiar with any more.
There used to be an Ankina breed associaiton, it may have gone the way that hope black herefords will. In the early 70s I bred a herd of Ankina cows, they looked like chianinas except black or like black angus on super steroids. They made Braunviehs look like runts in the height department
 
dun":2qktxa0q said:
backhoeboogie":2qktxa0q said:
Shucks Dun, I've got a laundry list of name changes. "Brindle" doesn't get used much any more to describe cows.

They usually can come up with some really long names for existing terminology and then give those names acronym.

I'm kind of scared to use "mottled" or any of the other terms I am familiar with any more.
There used to be an Ankina breed associaiton, it may have gone the way that hope black herefords will. In the early 70s I bred a herd of Ankina cows, they looked like chianinas except black or like black angus on super steroids. They made Braunviehs look like runts in the height department
Well Chianina that came from Italy were White with Black eyes feet and tail switch. I think you have another breed inmind
 
choward2955jd":1rt2gab8 said:
dun":1rt2gab8 said:
backhoeboogie":1rt2gab8 said:
Shucks Dun, I've got a laundry list of name changes. "Brindle" doesn't get used much any more to describe cows.

They usually can come up with some really long names for existing terminology and then give those names acronym.

I'm kind of scared to use "mottled" or any of the other terms I am familiar with any more.
There used to be an Ankina breed associaiton, it may have gone the way that hope black herefords will. In the early 70s I bred a herd of Ankina cows, they looked like chianinas except black or like black angus on super steroids. They made Braunviehs look like runts in the height department
Well Chianina that came from Italy were White with Black eyes feet and tail switch. I think you have another breed inmind
No, I have chianina and angus crosses in mind, thus the name Ankina. The standard breed code is(was) AK.
 
dun,

Apparently you and I are two of the older ones reading this string on Chi's. I too remember the first Chi/Angus composites being Ankina and even having their own breed association. Makes me wonder if their was another product or company already with the Ankina name which forced them to make a change. I don't recall if the Ankina registry was affiliated with the Chi association at the time or if they were totally separate organization.
 
Yep Jeanne, prior to being called Simbrahs they were called Brahmentals. Like with Ankinas, I wonder what caused the ASA to change the name of the Brahma/Simmental hybrid. I must admit, Brahmentals is a mouth full; maybe that was the reason for the name change.
 
UG":1qrz63sa said:
Yep Jeanne, prior to being called Simbrahs they were called Brahmentals. Like with Ankinas, I wonder what caused the ASA to change the name of the Brahma/Simmental hybrid. I must admit, Brahmentals is a mouth full; maybe that was the reason for the name change.
Yes, you are correct - name change was for the better.
 
Its all about the grade.................... ChiAngus are weak in almost ALL of the EPD's of economic importance, but might make great pets as I have not thought about it.

WW = terrible
YW = terrible
IMF = terrible
REA = Fair
BW = fair

ChiAngus were popular for the "Showman" 20 to 30 years ago and I never saw a show animal ever do too well in a production cow unit. Maybe you could market them as "Pets".





lilrue":2ptcax1b said:
I have the Chiangus Black breed -- I started with 2 cows and a baby. I now have 3 cows, 2 heifers that are due in a few months, 2 girl calves, 1 bull calf and a 2 yr old bull. They are my pets -- but I am from Amarillo, TX and am finding out that this breed is not popular. Can anyone give me some insight?
 
JustSimmental said:
Its all about the grade.................... ChiAngus are weak in almost ALL of the EPD's of economic importance, but might make great pets as I have not thought about it.

WW = terrible
YW = terrible
IMF = terrible
REA = Fair
BW = fair

ChiAngus were popular for the "Showman" 20 to 30 years ago and I never saw a show animal ever do too well in a production cow unit. Maybe you could market them as "Pets".

I wonder if you have noticed that YOU are the only one on this forum who consistantly belittles other peoples breeds, and means it. What seems to be especially funny is your use of across breed EPD's to pimp yourself, your business, and I guess your breed. Which BTW we have yet to see any pictures of. So before you critisize anyone elses cattle or breed let's see yours!
 
Gelbvieh 5":189pa2se said:
JustSimmental":189pa2se said:
Its all about the grade.................... ChiAngus are weak in almost ALL of the EPD's of economic importance, but might make great pets as I have not thought about it.

WW = terrible
YW = terrible
IMF = terrible
REA = Fair
BW = fair

ChiAngus were popular for the "Showman" 20 to 30 years ago and I never saw a show animal ever do too well in a production cow unit. Maybe you could market them as "Pets".

I wonder if you have noticed that YOU are the only one on this forum who consistantly belittles other peoples breeds, and means it. What seems to be especially funny is your use of across breed EPD's to pimp yourself, your business, and I guess your breed. Which BTW we have yet to see any pictures of. So before you critisize anyone elses cattle or breed let's see yours!
www.edrsimmental.com
 
ALACOWMAN":1wmh9xxm said:
Gelbvieh 5":1wmh9xxm said:
JustSimmental":1wmh9xxm said:
Its all about the grade.................... ChiAngus are weak in almost ALL of the EPD's of economic importance, but might make great pets as I have not thought about it.

WW = terrible
YW = terrible
IMF = terrible
REA = Fair
BW = fair

ChiAngus were popular for the "Showman" 20 to 30 years ago and I never saw a show animal ever do too well in a production cow unit. Maybe you could market them as "Pets".

I wonder if you have noticed that YOU are the only one on this forum who consistantly belittles other peoples breeds, and means it. What seems to be especially funny is your use of across breed EPD's to pimp yourself, your business, and I guess your breed. Which BTW we have yet to see any pictures of. So before you critisize anyone elses cattle or breed let's see yours!
http://www.edrsimmental.com/cattle-for-sale.php

I believe you have sloved the mystery and have identified who JS is. You win the prize... :banana:
 
to me folks on here in the seedstock business...need to relize the effects they might have on some.. its like the car business.. you p$$ off a customer or potential customer then they tell 2 people and then they tell 4 people... and so on and on......... and for pitys sake dont cram your philospy down their throats
 
you know whats sad i think the guy thinks he is helping straghten us out on our inferior cattle but then again he may be just a little misguided on a few dozen things ha ha ha David
 
JustSimmental":3o1snmol said:
Its all about the grade.................... ChiAngus are weak in almost ALL of the EPD's of economic importance, but might make great pets as I have not thought about it.

WW = terrible
YW = terrible
IMF = terrible
REA = Fair
BW = fair
ChiAngus were popular for the "Showman" 20 to 30 years ago and I never saw a show animal ever do too well in a production cow unit. Maybe you could market them as "Pets".

Im not an EPD scholar and I hate political correctness. I for one believe there is a hierarchy in breeds based on economical traits. Are his conclusions about these 5 EPD areas off base or just too generalized?

More progress would be made on here if people would contest the facts they disagree with as opposed to being polite. Some breeds ARE inferior.
 
Gelbvieh 5":20crqmiu said:
before you critisize anyone elses cattle or breed let's see yours![/b]
This is a family forum. None of this "I'll show you mine if you show me yours"
 

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