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<blockquote data-quote="Commercialfarmer" data-source="post: 1230747" data-attributes="member: 14544"><p>Didn't intend for it to sound literal, figured the sarcasm was inherent. I'd of quoted your original statement, but it's too much work on a phone. </p><p></p><p></p><p>As I said, I think there is legitimacy in some of the numbers. If prepotency is real, why does it not apply to calving ease? Granted that various genetic attributes have variations in percentage of real expression. But, if you can't make a difference through genetic selection, then the whole thing is a shell game. Which we know isn't true. </p><p></p><p>I don't doubt that something can't be selected for. But what are you selecting against or discarding in the breed by selecting away from more moderate birth weight or calving ease? </p><p></p><p>Seems to me like much of this is for the curve bending do it all heifer bull. Maybe they are curve bending, but they don't have the appearance of maternal functionality to me. As Dun said, maybe you can select for adequate pelvic shape in the face of increasing CED. Like finding increasing WW and YW with decreased BW and increasing CE. But in general, I think they are antagonistic. If you can find the outliers, there should be some value to them. I just want to see it work it first before I buy into it- I don't keep any second generation heifer bull heifer for breeding.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Commercialfarmer, post: 1230747, member: 14544"] Didn't intend for it to sound literal, figured the sarcasm was inherent. I'd of quoted your original statement, but it's too much work on a phone. As I said, I think there is legitimacy in some of the numbers. If prepotency is real, why does it not apply to calving ease? Granted that various genetic attributes have variations in percentage of real expression. But, if you can't make a difference through genetic selection, then the whole thing is a shell game. Which we know isn't true. I don't doubt that something can't be selected for. But what are you selecting against or discarding in the breed by selecting away from more moderate birth weight or calving ease? Seems to me like much of this is for the curve bending do it all heifer bull. Maybe they are curve bending, but they don't have the appearance of maternal functionality to me. As Dun said, maybe you can select for adequate pelvic shape in the face of increasing CED. Like finding increasing WW and YW with decreased BW and increasing CE. But in general, I think they are antagonistic. If you can find the outliers, there should be some value to them. I just want to see it work it first before I buy into it- I don't keep any second generation heifer bull heifer for breeding. [/QUOTE]
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